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From: Andrew Rybchenko <arybchenko@solarflare.com>
To: Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>
Cc: Slava Ovsiienko <viacheslavo@mellanox.com>,
	"dev@dpdk.org" <dev@dpdk.org>,  Matan Azrad <matan@mellanox.com>,
	Raslan Darawsheh <rasland@mellanox.com>,
	 Thomas Monjalon <thomas@monjalon.net>,
	"ferruh.yigit@intel.com" <ferruh.yigit@intel.com>,
	"jerinjacobk@gmail.com" <jerinjacobk@gmail.com>,
	"ajit.khaparde@broadcom.com" <ajit.khaparde@broadcom.com>,
	"maxime.coquelin@redhat.com" <maxime.coquelin@redhat.com>,
	"olivier.matz@6wind.com" <olivier.matz@6wind.com>,
	"david.marchand@redhat.com" <david.marchand@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH] doc: announce changes to ethdev rxconf structure
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2020 09:35:18 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <beed7bdd-7a6a-73da-d9f3-3dc0befb7899@solarflare.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200830112658.0d5f532e@hermes.lan>

Hi Stephen,

On 8/30/20 9:26 PM, Stephen Hemminger wrote:
> On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 15:58:57 +0300
> Andrew Rybchenko <arybchenko@solarflare.com> wrote:
> 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The non-zero value of rx_split_num field configures the receiving
>>>>>>> queue to split ingress packets into multiple segments to the mbufs
>>>>>>> allocated from various memory pools according to the specified
>>>>>>> lengths. The zero value of rx_split_num field provides the backward
>>>>>>> compatibility and queue should be configured in a regular way (with
>>>>>>> single/multiple mbufs of the same data buffer length allocated from
>>>>>>> the single memory pool).  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> From the above description it is not 100% clear how it will coexist with:
>>>>>>  - existing mb_pool argument of the rte_eth_rx_queue_setup()
>>>>>>  - DEV_RX_OFFLOAD_SCATTER  
>>>>>
>>>>> DEV_RX_OFFLOAD_SCATTER flag is required to be reported and configured
>>>>> for the new feature to indicate the application is prepared for the
>>>>> multisegment packets.  
>>>>
>>>> I hope it will be mentioned in the feature documentation in the future, but
>>>> I'm not 100% sure that it is required. See below.  
>>> I suppose there is the hierarchy:
>>> - applications configures DEV_RX_OFFLOAD_SCATTER on the port and tells in this way:
>>> "Hey, driver, I'm ready to handle multi-segment packets". Readiness in general.
>>> - application configures BUFFER_SPLIT and tells PMD _HOW_ it wants to split, in particular way:
>>> "Hey, driver, please, drop ten bytes here, here and here, and the rest - over there"  
>>
>> My idea is to keep SCATTER and BUFFER_SPLIT independent.
>> SCATTER is a possibility to make multi-segment packets getting
>> mbufs from main rxq mempool as many as required.
>> BUFFER_SPLIT is support of many mempools and splitting
>> received packets as specified.
> 
> No.
> Once again, drivers should take anything from application and rely on using
> logic to choose best path. Modern CPU's have good branch predictors, and making
> the developer do that work is counter productive.

Please, add a bit more details. I simply can see relationship.
So, right now for me it looks like just misunderstanding.

Thanks,
Andrew.

  reply	other threads:[~2020-08-31  6:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-08-03 15:18 Slava Ovsiienko
2020-08-03 15:31 ` Andrew Rybchenko
2020-08-03 16:51   ` Slava Ovsiienko
2020-08-30 12:58     ` Andrew Rybchenko
2020-08-30 18:26       ` Stephen Hemminger
2020-08-31  6:35         ` Andrew Rybchenko [this message]
2020-08-31 16:59           ` Stephen Hemminger
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2020-08-03 10:58 Viacheslav Ovsiienko
2020-08-03 11:56 ` Jerin Jacob
2020-08-03 13:06   ` Slava Ovsiienko
2020-08-04 13:32     ` Jerin Jacob
2020-08-05  6:35       ` Slava Ovsiienko
2020-08-06 15:58       ` Ferruh Yigit
2020-08-06 16:25         ` Stephen Hemminger
2020-08-06 16:41           ` Jerin Jacob
2020-08-06 17:03           ` Slava Ovsiienko
2020-08-06 18:10             ` Stephen Hemminger
2020-08-07 11:23               ` Slava Ovsiienko
2020-08-03 14:31 ` [dpdk-dev] ***Spam*** " Andrew Rybchenko
2020-08-06 16:15   ` [dpdk-dev] " Ferruh Yigit
2020-08-06 16:29     ` Slava Ovsiienko
2020-08-06 16:37       ` Ferruh Yigit
2020-08-06 16:39         ` Slava Ovsiienko
2020-08-06 16:43           ` Ferruh Yigit
2020-08-06 16:48             ` Slava Ovsiienko

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