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From: Ray Kinsella <mdr@ashroe.eu>
To: Kevin Traynor <ktraynor@redhat.com>, dpdk-dev <dev@dpdk.org>,
	"O'Driscoll, Tim" <tim.odriscoll@intel.com>,
	Brian <brian.aherne@intel.com>
Cc: "techboard@dpdk.org" <techboard@dpdk.org>
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [RFC] Proposals and notes from ABI stability panel @ DPDK Userspace
Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2019 15:29:16 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <c9e30c6b-ee52-cff6-07cd-dfc69b208c7f@ashroe.eu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <69a1da67-da6b-f004-7b84-279c55083e2e@redhat.com>


> In the short term, based on the feedback at the conference and to give
> something concrete to be considered, here is a suggestion,
> 
> ABI freeze starts at 20.02 for 9 months, with a review as planned to see
> if 20.11 should be frozen 2 years.
> 
> pros:
> + Eliminates any need for delaying 19.11 release
> 
> + Allows maintainers to stick to current deprecation policy if they need
> to make changes prior to freeze (Based on comment from Hemmant)
> 
> + Not sure if it's worthy of a new bullet or clear from above but I
> would add that changing the release cycle/deprecation policy etc 2 weeks
> (I think) before RC1 is late to say the least and there is no notice to
> users
> 
> + Means that any changes required prior to freeze are not rushed with
> usual big LTS release (19.11). Gives more time and maybe during a saner
> release cycle (20.02)
> 
> cons:
> - With view for possible 20.11 freeze, gives 2 releases to tease out
> process instead of 3
> 
> - Perhaps it is desirable for some users to have the 19.11 LTS ABI
> compatible with 20.02/05/08 releases
> 
> I've tried to keep them objective, of course people will have different
> opinions about starting a freeze now vs. later etc. too.
> 
> thanks,
> Kevin.
> 

*interesting*

Another approach, possibly better approach, is to see the LTS as the
final act following an ABI declaration/freeze.

We we declare the v20 ABI in DPDK 20.02, and hold that ABI until 21.02
including the v20.11 LTS. The LTS then becomes the cumulation of the ABI
freeze.

I didn't go this road, because of the community habit of pushing things
in just before the LTS, I thought it would be a bridge too far, and that
it would get considerable push back.

  reply	other threads:[~2019-09-25 14:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-09-23 17:51 Ray Kinsella
2019-09-25 13:31 ` Kevin Traynor
2019-09-25 14:29   ` Ray Kinsella [this message]
2019-09-25 14:40     ` [dpdk-dev] [dpdk-techboard] " Bruce Richardson
2019-09-25 14:49       ` Kevin Traynor
2019-09-25 15:06       ` Ray Kinsella

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