From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mails.dpdk.org (mails.dpdk.org [217.70.189.124]) by inbox.dpdk.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 977D843F64; Thu, 2 May 2024 07:51:34 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mails.dpdk.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mails.dpdk.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65F5C40299; Thu, 2 May 2024 07:51:34 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.lysator.liu.se (mail.lysator.liu.se [130.236.254.3]) by mails.dpdk.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C05F4026F for ; Thu, 2 May 2024 07:51:33 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.lysator.liu.se (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.lysator.liu.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA86ADFAC for ; Thu, 2 May 2024 07:51:32 +0200 (CEST) Received: by mail.lysator.liu.se (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BDDF1DF61; Thu, 2 May 2024 07:51:32 +0200 (CEST) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 (2022-12-13) on hermod.lysator.liu.se X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=disabled version=4.0.0 X-Spam-Score: -1.3 Received: from [192.168.1.59] (h-62-63-215-114.A163.priv.bahnhof.se [62.63.215.114]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by mail.lysator.liu.se (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D81AEDF5F; Thu, 2 May 2024 07:51:28 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 2 May 2024 07:51:28 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: [RFC v2] net/af_packet: make stats reset reliable To: Ferruh Yigit , "John W. Linville" Cc: Thomas Monjalon , dev@dpdk.org, =?UTF-8?Q?Mattias_R=C3=B6nnblom?= , Stephen Hemminger , =?UTF-8?Q?Morten_Br=C3=B8rup?= References: <20240425174617.2126159-1-ferruh.yigit@amd.com> <20240426143848.2280689-1-ferruh.yigit@amd.com> <108e0c40-33e7-4eed-83de-eaedee454480@lysator.liu.se> <7e5dd3cd-ea50-4aea-a350-d88f46854172@amd.com> Content-Language: en-US From: =?UTF-8?Q?Mattias_R=C3=B6nnblom?= In-Reply-To: <7e5dd3cd-ea50-4aea-a350-d88f46854172@amd.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP X-BeenThere: dev@dpdk.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: DPDK patches and discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: dev-bounces@dpdk.org On 2024-05-01 18:19, Ferruh Yigit wrote: > On 4/28/2024 4:11 PM, Mattias Rönnblom wrote: >> On 2024-04-26 16:38, Ferruh Yigit wrote: >>> For stats reset, use an offset instead of zeroing out actual stats >>> values, >>> get_stats() displays diff between stats and offset. >>> This way stats only updated in datapath and offset only updated in stats >>> reset function. This makes stats reset function more reliable. >>> >>> As stats only written by single thread, we can remove 'volatile' >>> qualifier >>> which should improve the performance in datapath. >>> >> >> volatile wouldn't help you if you had multiple writers, so that can't be >> the reason for its removal. It would be more accurate to say it should >> be replaced with atomic updates. If you don't use volatile and don't use >> atomics, you have to consider if the compiler can reach the conclusion >> that it does not need to store the counter value for future use *for >> that thread*. Since otherwise, I don't think the store actually needs to >> occur. Since DPDK statistics tend to work, it's pretty obvious that >> current compilers tend not to reach this conclusion. >> > > Thanks Mattias for clarifying why we need volatile or atomics even with > single writer. > >> If this should be done 100% properly, the update operation should be a >> non-atomic load, non-atomic add, and an atomic store. Similarly, for the >> reset, the offset store should be atomic. >> > > ack > >> Considered the state of the rest of the DPDK code base, I think a >> non-atomic, non-volatile solution is also fine. >> > > Yes, this seems working practically but I guess better to follow above > suggestion. > >> (That said, I think we're better off just deprecating stats reset >> altogether, and returning -ENOTSUP here meanwhile.) >> > > As long as reset is reliable (here I mean it reset stats in every call) > and doesn't impact datapath performance, I am for to continue with it. > Returning non supported won't bring more benefit to users. > >>> Signed-off-by: Ferruh Yigit >>> --- >>> Cc: Mattias Rönnblom >>> Cc: Stephen Hemminger >>> Cc: Morten Brørup >>> >>> This update triggered by mail list discussion [1]. >>> >>> [1] >>> https://inbox.dpdk.org/dev/3b2cf48e-2293-4226-b6cd-5f4dd3969f99@lysator.liu.se/ >>> >>> v2: >>> * Remove wrapping check for stats >>> --- >>>   drivers/net/af_packet/rte_eth_af_packet.c | 66 ++++++++++++++--------- >>>   1 file changed, 41 insertions(+), 25 deletions(-) >>> >>> diff --git a/drivers/net/af_packet/rte_eth_af_packet.c >>> b/drivers/net/af_packet/rte_eth_af_packet.c >>> index 397a32db5886..10c8e1e50139 100644 >>> --- a/drivers/net/af_packet/rte_eth_af_packet.c >>> +++ b/drivers/net/af_packet/rte_eth_af_packet.c >>> @@ -51,8 +51,10 @@ struct pkt_rx_queue { >>>       uint16_t in_port; >>>       uint8_t vlan_strip; >>>   -    volatile unsigned long rx_pkts; >>> -    volatile unsigned long rx_bytes; >>> +    uint64_t rx_pkts; >>> +    uint64_t rx_bytes; >>> +    uint64_t rx_pkts_offset; >>> +    uint64_t rx_bytes_offset; >> >> I suggest you introduce a separate struct for reset-able counters. It'll >> make things cleaner, and you can sneak in atomics without too much >> atomics-related bloat. >> >> struct counter >> { >>     uint64_t count; >>     uint64_t offset; >> }; >> >> /../ >>     struct counter rx_pkts; >>     struct counter rx_bytes; >> /../ >> >> static uint64_t >> counter_value(struct counter *counter) >> { >>     uint64_t count = __atomic_load_n(&counter->count, __ATOMIC_RELAXED); >>     uint64_t offset = __atomic_load_n(&counter->offset, __ATOMIC_RELAXED); >> >>     return count + offset; >> } >> >> static void >> counter_reset(struct counter *counter) >> { >>     uint64_t count = __atomic_load_n(&counter->count, __ATOMIC_RELAXED); >> >>     __atomic_store_n(&counter->offset, count, __ATOMIC_RELAXED); >> } >> >> static void >> counter_add(struct counter *counter, uint64_t operand) >> { >>     __atomic_store_n(&counter->count, counter->count + operand, >> __ATOMIC_RELAXED); >> } >> > > Ack for separate struct for reset-able counters. > >> You'd have to port this to calls, which prevents >> non-atomic loads from RTE_ATOMIC()s. The non-atomic reads above must be >> replaced with explicit relaxed non-atomic load. Otherwise, if you just >> use "counter->count", that would be an atomic load with sequential >> consistency memory order on C11 atomics-based builds, which would result >> in a barrier, at least on weakly ordered machines (e.g., ARM). >> > > I am not sure I understand above. > As load and add will be non-atomic, why not access them directly, like: > `uint64_t count = counter->count;` > In case count is _Atomic (i.e., on enable_stdatomic=true builds), "count = counter->count" will imply a memory barrier. On x86_64, I think it will "only" be a compiler barrier (i.e., preventing optimization). On weakly ordered machines, it will result in a barrier-instruction (or an instruction-which-is-also-a-barrier, like in the example below). include int relaxed_load(_Atomic int *p) { atomic_load_explicit(p, memory_order_relaxed); } int direct_load(_Atomic int *p) { return *p; } GCC 13.2 ARM64 -> relaxed_load: ldr w0, [x0] ret direct_load: ldar w0, [x0] ret > So my understanding is, remove `volatile`, load and add without atomics, > and only use relaxed ordered atomics for store (to ensure value in > register stored to memory). > Yes, that would be the best option, would the DPDK atomics API allow its implementation - but it doesn't. At least not if you care about what happens in enable_stdatomic=true builds. The second-best option is to use a rte_memory_order_relaxed atomic load, a regular non-atomic add, and a relaxed atomic store. > I will send a new version of RFC with above understanding. > >> I would still use a struct and some helper-functions even for the less >> ambitious, non-atomic variant. >> >> The only drawback of using GCC built-ins type atomics here, versus an >> atomic- and volatile-free approach, is that current compilers seems to >> refuse merging atomic stores. It's beyond me why this is the case. If >> you store to a variable twice in quick succession, it'll be two store >> machine instructions, even in cases where the compiler *knows* the value >> is identical. So volatile, even though you didn't ask for it. Weird. >> >> So if you have a loop, you may want to make an "counter_add()" in the >> end from a temporary, to get the final 0.001% of performance. >> > > ack > > I can't really say which one of the following is better (because of > store in empty poll), but I will keep it as it is (b.): > > a. > for (i < nb_pkt) { > stats =+ 1; > } > > > b. > for (i < nb_pkt) { > tmp =+ 1; > } > stats += tmp; > > > c. > for (i < nb_pkt) { > tmp =+ 1; > } > if (tmp) > stats += tmp; > > > >> If the tech board thinks MT-safe reset-able software-manage statistics >> is the future (as opposed to dropping reset support, for example), I >> think this stuff should go into a separate header file, so other PMDs >> can reuse it. Maybe out of scope for this patch. >> > > I don't think we need MT-safe reset, the patch is already out to > document current status. Well, what you are working on is a MT-safe reset, in the sense it allows for one (1) resetting thread properly synchronize with multiple concurrent counter-updating threads. It's not going to be completely MT safe, since you can't have two threads calling the reset function in parallel. Any change to the API should make this clear. > For HW stats reset is already reliable and for SW drives offset based > approach can make is reliable. > > Unless you explicitly asked for it, I don't think this is in the agenda > of the techboard. > > >>>   }; >>>     struct pkt_tx_queue { >>> @@ -64,9 +66,12 @@ struct pkt_tx_queue { >>>       unsigned int framecount; >>>       unsigned int framenum; >>>   -    volatile unsigned long tx_pkts; >>> -    volatile unsigned long err_pkts; >>> -    volatile unsigned long tx_bytes; >>> +    uint64_t tx_pkts; >>> +    uint64_t err_pkts; >>> +    uint64_t tx_bytes; >>> +    uint64_t tx_pkts_offset; >>> +    uint64_t err_pkts_offset; >>> +    uint64_t tx_bytes_offset; >>>   }; >>>     struct pmd_internals { >>> @@ -385,8 +390,15 @@ eth_dev_info(struct rte_eth_dev *dev, struct >>> rte_eth_dev_info *dev_info) >>>       return 0; >>>   } >>>   + >>> +static uint64_t >>> +stats_get_diff(uint64_t stats, uint64_t offset) >>> +{ >>> +    return stats - offset; >>> +} >>> + >>>   static int >>> -eth_stats_get(struct rte_eth_dev *dev, struct rte_eth_stats *igb_stats) >>> +eth_stats_get(struct rte_eth_dev *dev, struct rte_eth_stats *stats) >>>   { >>>       unsigned i, imax; >>>       unsigned long rx_total = 0, tx_total = 0, tx_err_total = 0; >>> @@ -396,27 +408,29 @@ eth_stats_get(struct rte_eth_dev *dev, struct >>> rte_eth_stats *igb_stats) >>>       imax = (internal->nb_queues < RTE_ETHDEV_QUEUE_STAT_CNTRS ? >>>               internal->nb_queues : RTE_ETHDEV_QUEUE_STAT_CNTRS); >>>       for (i = 0; i < imax; i++) { >>> -        igb_stats->q_ipackets[i] = internal->rx_queue[i].rx_pkts; >>> -        igb_stats->q_ibytes[i] = internal->rx_queue[i].rx_bytes; >>> -        rx_total += igb_stats->q_ipackets[i]; >>> -        rx_bytes_total += igb_stats->q_ibytes[i]; >>> +        struct pkt_rx_queue *rxq = &internal->rx_queue[i]; >>> +        stats->q_ipackets[i] = stats_get_diff(rxq->rx_pkts, >>> rxq->rx_pkts_offset); >>> +        stats->q_ibytes[i] = stats_get_diff(rxq->rx_bytes, >>> rxq->rx_bytes_offset); >>> +        rx_total += stats->q_ipackets[i]; >>> +        rx_bytes_total += stats->q_ibytes[i]; >>>       } >>>         imax = (internal->nb_queues < RTE_ETHDEV_QUEUE_STAT_CNTRS ? >>>               internal->nb_queues : RTE_ETHDEV_QUEUE_STAT_CNTRS); >>>       for (i = 0; i < imax; i++) { >>> -        igb_stats->q_opackets[i] = internal->tx_queue[i].tx_pkts; >>> -        igb_stats->q_obytes[i] = internal->tx_queue[i].tx_bytes; >>> -        tx_total += igb_stats->q_opackets[i]; >>> -        tx_err_total += internal->tx_queue[i].err_pkts; >>> -        tx_bytes_total += igb_stats->q_obytes[i]; >>> +        struct pkt_tx_queue *txq = &internal->tx_queue[i]; >>> +        stats->q_opackets[i] = stats_get_diff(txq->tx_pkts, >>> txq->tx_pkts_offset); >>> +        stats->q_obytes[i] = stats_get_diff(txq->tx_bytes, >>> txq->tx_bytes_offset); >>> +        tx_total += stats->q_opackets[i]; >>> +        tx_err_total += stats_get_diff(txq->err_pkts, >>> txq->err_pkts_offset); >>> +        tx_bytes_total += stats->q_obytes[i]; >>>       } >>>   -    igb_stats->ipackets = rx_total; >>> -    igb_stats->ibytes = rx_bytes_total; >>> -    igb_stats->opackets = tx_total; >>> -    igb_stats->oerrors = tx_err_total; >>> -    igb_stats->obytes = tx_bytes_total; >>> +    stats->ipackets = rx_total; >>> +    stats->ibytes = rx_bytes_total; >>> +    stats->opackets = tx_total; >>> +    stats->oerrors = tx_err_total; >>> +    stats->obytes = tx_bytes_total; >>>       return 0; >>>   } >>>   @@ -427,14 +441,16 @@ eth_stats_reset(struct rte_eth_dev *dev) >>>       struct pmd_internals *internal = dev->data->dev_private; >>>         for (i = 0; i < internal->nb_queues; i++) { >>> -        internal->rx_queue[i].rx_pkts = 0; >>> -        internal->rx_queue[i].rx_bytes = 0; >>> +        struct pkt_rx_queue *rxq = &internal->rx_queue[i]; >>> +        rxq->rx_pkts_offset = rxq->rx_pkts; >>> +        rxq->rx_bytes_offset = rxq->rx_bytes; >>>       } >>>         for (i = 0; i < internal->nb_queues; i++) { >>> -        internal->tx_queue[i].tx_pkts = 0; >>> -        internal->tx_queue[i].err_pkts = 0; >>> -        internal->tx_queue[i].tx_bytes = 0; >>> +        struct pkt_tx_queue *txq = &internal->tx_queue[i]; >>> +        txq->tx_pkts_offset = txq->tx_pkts; >>> +        txq->err_pkts_offset = txq->err_pkts; >>> +        txq->tx_bytes_offset = txq->tx_bytes; >>>       } >>>         return 0; >