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From: Ferruh Yigit <ferruh.yigit@intel.com>
To: "Ananyev, Konstantin" <konstantin.ananyev@intel.com>,
	"Yang, SteveX" <stevex.yang@intel.com>,
	"Zhang, Qi Z" <qi.z.zhang@intel.com>,
	"dev@dpdk.org" <dev@dpdk.org>
Cc: "Zhao1, Wei" <wei.zhao1@intel.com>,
	"Guo, Jia" <jia.guo@intel.com>,
	"Yang, Qiming" <qiming.yang@intel.com>,
	"Wu, Jingjing" <jingjing.wu@intel.com>,
	"Xing, Beilei" <beilei.xing@intel.com>,
	"Stokes, Ian" <ian.stokes@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 3/5] net/ice: fix max mtu size packets with vlan tag cannot be received by default
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2020 19:01:21 +0100
Message-ID: <e4aa7658-2ccd-39a8-a93c-e867a68470a4@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <BYAPR11MB33017C521B1CA651C27AC3CB9A1E0@BYAPR11MB3301.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>

On 10/19/2020 3:28 PM, Ananyev, Konstantin wrote:
> 
>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> testpmd will initialize default max packet length to 1518 which
>>>>>>>>>>>> doesn't include vlan tag size in ether overheader. Once, send the
>>>>>>>>>>>> max mtu length packet with vlan tag, the max packet length will
>>>>>>>>>>>> exceed 1518 that will cause packets dropped directly from NIC hw
>>>>>>>> side.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> ice can support dual vlan tags that need more 8 bytes for max
>>>>>>>>>>>> packet size, so, configures the correct max packet size in
>>>>>>>>>>>> dev_config
>>>>>>>>> ops.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Fixes: 50cc9d2a6e9d ("net/ice: fix max frame size")
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Signed-off-by: SteveX Yang <stevex.yang@intel.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>>>>>>     drivers/net/ice/ice_ethdev.c | 11 +++++++++++
>>>>>>>>>>>>     1 file changed, 11 insertions(+)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> diff --git a/drivers/net/ice/ice_ethdev.c
>>>>>>>>>>>> b/drivers/net/ice/ice_ethdev.c index
>>>>>>>>>>>> cfd357b05..6b7098444 100644
>>>>>>>>>>>> --- a/drivers/net/ice/ice_ethdev.c
>>>>>>>>>>>> +++ b/drivers/net/ice/ice_ethdev.c
>>>>>>>>>>>> @@ -3146,6 +3146,7 @@ ice_dev_configure(struct rte_eth_dev
>>>>>> *dev)
>>>>>>>>>>>> struct ice_adapter *ad =
>>>>>>>>>>>> ICE_DEV_PRIVATE_TO_ADAPTER(dev->data->dev_private);
>>>>>>>>>>>>     struct ice_pf *pf =
>>>>>>>>>>>> ICE_DEV_PRIVATE_TO_PF(dev->data->dev_private);
>>>>>>>>>>>> +uint32_t frame_size = dev->data->mtu + ICE_ETH_OVERHEAD;
>>>>>>>>>>>>     int ret;
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>     /* Initialize to TRUE. If any of Rx queues doesn't meet the @@
>>>>>>>>>>>> -3157,6
>>>>>>>>>>>> +3158,16 @@ ice_dev_configure(struct rte_eth_dev *dev)
>>>>>>>>>>>>     if (dev->data->dev_conf.rxmode.mq_mode &
>>>>>> ETH_MQ_RX_RSS_FLAG)
>>>>>>>>>>>> dev->data->dev_conf.rxmode.offloads |=
>>>>>>>>> DEV_RX_OFFLOAD_RSS_HASH;
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> +/**
>>>>>>>>>>>> + * Considering QinQ packet, max frame size should be equal or
>>>>>>>>>>>> + * larger than total size of MTU and Ether overhead.
>>>>>>>>>>>> + */
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> +if (frame_size > dev->data->dev_conf.rxmode.max_rx_pkt_len) {
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Why we need this check?
>>>>>>>>>>> Can we just call ice_mtu_set directly
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I think that without that check we can silently overwrite provided
>>>>>>>>>> by user dev_conf.rxmode.max_rx_pkt_len value.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> OK, I see
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> But still have one question
>>>>>>>>> dev->data->mtu is initialized to 1518 as default , but if
>>>>>>>>> dev->data->application set
>>>>>>>>> dev_conf.rxmode.max_rx_pkt_len = 1000 in dev_configure.
>>>>>>>>> does that mean we will still will set mtu to 1518, is this expected?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> max_rx_pkt_len should be larger than mtu at least, so we should raise
>>>>>>>> the max_rx_pkt_len (e.g.:1518) to hold expected mtu value (e.g.: 1500).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ok, this describe the problem more general and better to replace exist
>>>>>> code comment and commit log for easy understanding.
>>>>>>> Please send a new version for reword
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I didn't really get this set.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Application explicitly sets 'max_rx_pkt_len' to '1518', and a frame bigger than
>>>>>> this size is dropped.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sure, it is normal case for dropping oversize data.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Isn't this what should be, why we are trying to overwrite user configuration
>>>>>> in PMD to prevent this?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> But it is a confliction that application/user sets mtu & max_rx_pkt_len at the same time.
>>>>> This fix will make a decision when confliction occurred.
>>>>> MTU value will come from user operation (e.g.: port config mtu 0 1500) directly,
>>>>> so, the max_rx_pkt_len will resize itself to adapt expected MTU value if its size is smaller than MTU + Ether overhead.
>>>>>
>>>>>> During eth_dev allocation, mtu set to default '1500', by ethdev layer.
>>>>>> And testpmd sets 'max_rx_pkt_len' by default to '1518'.
>>>>>> I think Qi's concern above is valid, what is user set 'max_rx_pkt_len' to '1000'
>>>>>> and mean it? PMD will not honor the user config.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm not sure when set 'mtu' to '1500' and 'max_rx_pkt_len' to '1000', what's the behavior expected?
>>>>> If still keep the 'max_rx_pkt_len' value, that means the larger 'mtu' will be invalid.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why not simply increase the default 'max_rx_pkt_len' in testpmd?
>>>>>>
>>>>> The default 'max_rx_pkt_len' has been initialized to generical value (1518) and default 'mtu' is '1500' in testpmd,
>>>>> But it isn't suitable to those NIC drivers which Ether overhead is larger than 18. (e.g.: ice, i40e) if 'mtu' value is preferable.
>>>>>
>>>>>> And I guess even better what we need is to tell to the application what the
>>>>>> frame overhead PMD accepts.
>>>>>> So the application can set proper 'max_rx_pkt_len' value per port for a
>>>>>> given/requested MTU value.
>>>>>> @Ian, cc'ed, was complaining almost same thing years ago, these PMD
>>>>>> overhead macros and 'max_mtu'/'min_mtu' added because of that, perhaps
>>>>>> he has a solution now?
>>>>
>>>>   From my perspective the main problem here:
>>>> We have 2 different variables for nearly the same thing:
>>>> rte_eth_dev_data.mtu and rte_eth_dev_data.dev_conf.max_rx_pkt_len.
>>>> and 2 different API to update them: dev_mtu_set() and dev_configure().
>>>
>>> According API 'max_rx_pkt_len' is 'Only used if JUMBO_FRAME enabled'
>>> Although not sure that is practically what is done for all drivers.
>>
>> I think most of Intel PMDs use it unconditionally.
>>
>>>
>>>> And inside majority of Intel PMDs we don't keep these 2 variables in sync:
>>>> - mtu_set() will update both variables.
>>>> - dev_configure() will update only max_rx_pkt_len, but will keep mtu intact.
>>>>
>>>> This patch fixes this inconsistency, which I think is a good thing.
>>>> Though yes, it introduces change in behaviour.
>>>>
>>>> Let say the code:
>>>> rte_eth_dev_set_mtu(port, 1500);
>>>> dev_conf.max_rx_pkt_len = 1000;
>>>> rte_eth_dev_configure(port, 1, 1, &dev_conf);
>>>>
>>>
>>> 'rte_eth_dev_configure()' is one of the first APIs called, it is called before
>>> 'rte_eth_dev_set_mtu().
>>
>> Usually yes.
>> But you can still do sometimes later: dev_mtu_set(); ...; dev_stop(); dev_configure(); dev_start();
>>
>>>
>>> When 'rte_eth_dev_configure()' is called, MTU is set to '1500' by default by
>>> ethdev layer, so it is not user configuration, but 'max_rx_pkt_len' is.
>>
>> See above.
>> PMD doesn't know where this MTU value came from (default ethdev value or user specified value)
>> and probably it shouldn't care.
>>
>>>
>>> And later, when 'rte_eth_dev_set_mtu()' is called, but MTU and 'max_rx_pkt_len'
>>> are updated (mostly).
>>
>> Yes, in mtu_set() we update both.
>> But we don't update MTU in dev_configure(), only max_rx_pkt_len.
>> That what this patch tries to fix (as I understand it).
> 
> To be more precise - it doesn't change MTU value in dev_configure(),
> but instead doesn't allow max_rx_pkt_len to become smaller
> then MTU + OVERHEAD.
> Probably changing MTU value instead is a better choice.
> 

+1 to change mtu for this case.
And this is what happens in practice when there is no 'rte_eth_dev_set_mtu()' 
call, since PMD is using ('max_rx_pkt_len' - OVERHEAD) to set MTU.

But this won't solve the problem Steve is trying to solve.

>>>
>>>
>>>> Before the patch will result:
>>>> mtu==1500, max_rx_pkt_len=1000;  //out of sync looks wrong to me
>>>>
>>>> After the patch:
>>>> mtu=1500, max_rx_ptk_len=1518; // in sync, change in behaviour.
>>>>
>>>> If you think we need to preserve current behaviour,
>>>> then I suppose the easiest thing would be to change dev_config() code
>>>> to update mtu value based on max_rx_pkt_len.
>>>> I.E: dev_configure {...; mtu_set(max_rx_pkt_len - OVERHEAD); ...}
>>>> So the code snippet above will result:
>>>> mtu=982,max_rx_pkt_len=1000;
>>>>
>>>
>>> The 'max_rx_ptk_len' is annoyance for a long time, what do you think to just
>>> drop it?
>>>
>>> By default device will be up with default MTU (1500), later
>>> 'rte_eth_dev_set_mtu' can be used to set the MTU, no frame size setting at all.
>>>
>>> Will this work?
>>
>> I think it might, but that's a big change, probably too risky at that stage...
>>

Defintely, I was thinking for 21.11. Let me send a deprecation notice and see 
what happens.

>>
>>>
>>>
>>> And for short term, for above Intel PMDs, there must be a place this
>>> 'max_rx_pkt_len' value taken into account (mostly 'start()' dev_ops), that
>>> function can be updated to take 'max_rx_pkt_len' only if JUMBO_FRAME set,
>>> otherwise use the 'MTU' value.
>>
>> Even if we'll use max_rx_pkt_len only when if JUMBO_FRAME is set,
>> I think we still need to keep max_rx_pkt_len and MTU values in sync.
>>
>>>
>>> Without 'start()' updated the current logic won't work after stop & start anyway.
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And why this same thing can't happen to other PMDs? If this is a problem for
>>>>>> all PMDs, we should solve in other level, not for only some PMDs.
>>>>>>
>>>>> No, all PMDs exist the same issue, another proposal:
>>>>>    -  rte_ethdev provides the unique resize 'max_rx_pkt_len' in rte_eth_dev_configure();
>>>>>    - provide the uniform API for fetching the NIC's supported Ether Overhead size;
>>>>> Is it feasible?
>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Generally, the mtu value can be adjustable from user (e.g.: ip link
>>>>>>>> set ens801f0 mtu 1400), hence, we just adjust the max_rx_pkt_len to
>>>>>>>> satisfy mtu requirement.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Should we just call ice_mtu_set(dev, dev_conf.rxmode.max_rx_pkt_len)
>>>>>>>>> here?
>>>>>>>> ice_mtu_set(dev, mtu) will append ether overhead to
>>>>>>>> frame_size/max_rx_pkt_len, so we need pass the mtu value as the 2nd
>>>>>>>> parameter, or not the max_rx_pkt_len.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> And please remove above comment, since ether overhead is already
>>>>>>>>>> considered in ice_mtu_set.
>>>>>>>> Ether overhead is already considered in ice_mtu_set, but it also
>>>>>>>> should be considered as the adjustment condition that if ice_mtu_set
>>>>>> need be invoked.
>>>>>>>> So, it perhaps should remain this comment before this if() condition.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> +ret = ice_mtu_set(dev, dev->data->mtu); if (ret != 0) return
>>>>>>>>>>>> +ret; }
>>>>>>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>>>>>>>     ret = ice_init_rss(pf);
>>>>>>>>>>>>     if (ret) {
>>>>>>>>>>>>     PMD_DRV_LOG(ERR, "Failed to enable rss for PF");
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2.17.1
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>
> 


  reply	other threads:[~2020-10-19 18:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 94+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-09-16  5:52 [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v1 0/5] fix default max mtu size when device configured SteveX Yang
2020-09-16  5:52 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v1 1/5] net/e1000: fix max mtu size packets with vlan tag cannot be received by default SteveX Yang
2020-09-16  5:52 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v1 2/5] net/igc: " SteveX Yang
2020-09-16  5:52 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v1 3/5] net/ice: " SteveX Yang
2020-09-16  5:52 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v1 4/5] net/iavf: " SteveX Yang
2020-09-16  5:52 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v1 5/5] net/i40e: " SteveX Yang
2020-09-16 14:41   ` Ananyev, Konstantin
     [not found]     ` <DM6PR11MB4362E5FF332551D12AA20017F93E0@DM6PR11MB4362.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>
2020-09-17 12:18       ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2020-09-22  1:23 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 0/5] fix default max mtu size when device configured SteveX Yang
2020-09-22  1:23   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 1/5] net/e1000: fix max mtu size packets with vlan tag cannot be received by default SteveX Yang
2020-09-22  1:23   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 2/5] net/igc: " SteveX Yang
2020-09-22  1:23   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 3/5] net/ice: " SteveX Yang
2020-09-22  1:23   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 4/5] net/i40e: " SteveX Yang
2020-09-22 10:47     ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2020-09-22  1:23   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 5/5] net/iavf: " SteveX Yang
2020-09-23  4:09   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 0/5] fix default max mtu size when device configured SteveX Yang
2020-09-23  4:09     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 1/5] net/e1000: fix max mtu size packets with vlan tag cannot be received by default SteveX Yang
2020-09-23  4:09     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 2/5] net/igc: " SteveX Yang
2020-09-23  4:09     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 3/5] net/ice: " SteveX Yang
2020-09-23  4:09     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 4/5] net/i40e: " SteveX Yang
2020-09-23  4:09     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 5/5] net/iavf: " SteveX Yang
2020-09-28  6:55     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 0/5] fix default max mtu size when device configured SteveX Yang
2020-09-28  6:55       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 1/5] net/e1000: fix max mtu size packets with vlan tag cannot be received by default SteveX Yang
2020-09-28  6:55       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 2/5] net/igc: " SteveX Yang
2020-09-28  6:55       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 3/5] net/ice: " SteveX Yang
2020-09-29 11:59         ` Zhang, Qi Z
2020-09-29 23:01           ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2020-09-30  0:34             ` Zhang, Qi Z
     [not found]               ` <DM6PR11MB4362515283D00E27A793E6B0F9330@DM6PR11MB4362.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>
2020-09-30  2:32                 ` Zhang, Qi Z
2020-10-14 15:38                   ` Ferruh Yigit
     [not found]                     ` <DM6PR11MB43628BBF9DCE7CC4D7C05AD8F91E0@DM6PR11MB4362.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>
2020-10-19 10:49                       ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2020-10-19 13:07                         ` Ferruh Yigit
2020-10-19 14:07                           ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2020-10-19 14:28                             ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2020-10-19 18:01                               ` Ferruh Yigit [this message]
2020-10-20  9:07                                 ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2020-10-20 12:29                                   ` Ferruh Yigit
2020-10-21  9:47                                     ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2020-10-21 10:36                                       ` Ferruh Yigit
2020-10-21 10:44                                         ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2020-10-21 10:53                                           ` Ferruh Yigit
2020-10-19 18:05                       ` Ferruh Yigit
     [not found]                         ` <DM6PR11MB4362F936BFC715BF6BABBAD0F91F0@DM6PR11MB4362.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>
2020-10-20  8:13                           ` Ferruh Yigit
2020-09-28  6:55       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 4/5] net/i40e: " SteveX Yang
2020-09-28  6:55       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 5/5] net/iavf: " SteveX Yang
2020-10-14  9:19       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 0/5] fix default max mtu size when device configured SteveX Yang
2020-10-14  9:19         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 1/5] net/e1000: fix max mtu size packets with vlan tag cannot be received by default SteveX Yang
2020-10-14  9:19         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 2/5] net/igc: " SteveX Yang
2020-10-14  9:19         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 3/5] net/ice: " SteveX Yang
2020-10-14 11:35           ` Zhang, Qi Z
2020-10-14  9:19         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 4/5] net/i40e: " SteveX Yang
2020-10-14 10:30           ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2020-10-14  9:19         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 5/5] net/iavf: " SteveX Yang
2020-10-14 11:43         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 0/5] fix default max mtu size when device configured Zhang, Qi Z
2020-10-22  8:48         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 0/2] " SteveX Yang
2020-10-22  8:48           ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 1/2] app/testpmd: fix max rx packet length for VLAN packets SteveX Yang
2020-10-22 16:22             ` Ferruh Yigit
2020-10-22  8:48           ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 2/2] librte_ethdev: fix MTU size exceeds max rx packet length SteveX Yang
2020-10-22 16:31             ` Ferruh Yigit
2020-10-22 16:52             ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2020-10-28  3:03           ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v7 0/1] fix default max mtu size when device configured SteveX Yang
2020-10-28  3:03             ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v7 1/1] app/testpmd: fix max rx packet length for VLAN packets SteveX Yang
2020-10-29  8:41               ` Ferruh Yigit
2020-11-02  8:52             ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v8 0/2] fix default max mtu size when device configured SteveX Yang
2020-11-02  8:52               ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v8 1/2] app/testpmd: fix max rx packet length for VLAN packets SteveX Yang
2020-11-02 11:48                 ` Ferruh Yigit
2020-11-03 13:29                   ` Ferruh Yigit
2020-11-04 16:51                     ` Thomas Monjalon
2020-11-04 17:07                       ` Ferruh Yigit
2020-11-04 17:55                         ` Thomas Monjalon
2020-11-04 20:19                           ` Ferruh Yigit
2020-11-04 20:39                             ` Thomas Monjalon
2020-11-05  8:54                               ` Andrew Rybchenko
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2020-11-05 10:37                                   ` Ferruh Yigit
2020-11-05 10:44                                     ` Thomas Monjalon
2020-11-05 10:48                                       ` Thomas Monjalon
2020-11-05 10:50                                         ` Ferruh Yigit
2020-11-05 13:52                                           ` Olivier Matz
2020-11-05 15:11                                             ` Lance Richardson
2020-11-05 15:56                                               ` Ferruh Yigit
2020-11-05 16:23                                                 ` Lance Richardson
2020-11-05 17:44                                                 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 1/1] app/testpmd: revert max Rx packet length adjustment Thomas Monjalon
2020-11-05 18:02                                                   ` Lance Richardson
2020-11-05 18:11                                                   ` Ferruh Yigit
2020-11-05 18:18                                                     ` Thomas Monjalon
2020-11-05 10:49                                       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v8 1/2] app/testpmd: fix max rx packet length for VLAN packets Ferruh Yigit
2020-11-02  8:52               ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v8 2/2] doc: annouce deprecation of jumbo frame flag condition SteveX Yang
2020-11-02 11:50                 ` Ferruh Yigit
2020-11-02 13:18                 ` Andrew Rybchenko
2020-11-02 13:58                   ` Ferruh Yigit
2020-11-02 16:05                     ` Ananyev, Konstantin
     [not found]                       ` <DM6PR11MB43625C5CF594BEDC9CE479F7F9110@DM6PR11MB4362.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>
2020-11-24 17:46                         ` Ferruh Yigit
2020-11-27 12:19                           ` Andrew Rybchenko
2020-11-27 17:08                             ` Bruce Richardson

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