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From: "Mattias Rönnblom" <hofors@lysator.liu.se>
To: Ruifeng Wang <Ruifeng.Wang@arm.com>,
	"thomas@monjalon.net" <thomas@monjalon.net>,
	"david.marchand@redhat.com" <david.marchand@redhat.com>
Cc: "dev@dpdk.org" <dev@dpdk.org>,
	"konstantin.v.ananyev@yandex.ru" <konstantin.v.ananyev@yandex.ru>,
	Honnappa Nagarahalli <Honnappa.Nagarahalli@arm.com>,
	nd <nd@arm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] eal: add notes to SMP memory barrier APIs
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2023 21:28:14 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <f57e8ab2-dd7b-9f13-37eb-6818566bdc65@lysator.liu.se> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AS8PR08MB7080699A237F9351E706AAB29E21A@AS8PR08MB7080.eurprd08.prod.outlook.com>

On 2023-06-25 10:17, Ruifeng Wang wrote:
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Mattias Rönnblom <hofors@lysator.liu.se>
>> Sent: Friday, June 23, 2023 2:20 AM
>> To: Ruifeng Wang <Ruifeng.Wang@arm.com>; thomas@monjalon.net; david.marchand@redhat.com
>> Cc: dev@dpdk.org; konstantin.v.ananyev@yandex.ru; Honnappa Nagarahalli
>> <Honnappa.Nagarahalli@arm.com>; nd <nd@arm.com>
>> Subject: Re: [PATCH] eal: add notes to SMP memory barrier APIs
>>
>> On 2023-06-21 08:44, Ruifeng Wang wrote:
>>> The rte_smp_xx() APIs are deprecated. But it is not mentioned in the
>>> function header.
>>> Added notes in function header for clarification.
>>>
>>> Signed-off-by: Ruifeng Wang <ruifeng.wang@arm.com>
>>> ---
>>>    lib/eal/include/generic/rte_atomic.h | 15 +++++++++++++++
>>>    1 file changed, 15 insertions(+)
>>>
>>> diff --git a/lib/eal/include/generic/rte_atomic.h
>>> b/lib/eal/include/generic/rte_atomic.h
>>> index 58df843c54..542a2c16ff 100644
>>> --- a/lib/eal/include/generic/rte_atomic.h
>>> +++ b/lib/eal/include/generic/rte_atomic.h
>>> @@ -55,6 +55,11 @@ static inline void rte_rmb(void);
>>>     * Guarantees that the LOAD and STORE operations that precede the
>>>     * rte_smp_mb() call are globally visible across the lcores
>>>     * before the LOAD and STORE operations that follows it.
>>> + *
>>> + * @note
>>> + *  This function is deprecated. It adds complexity to the memory
>>> + model
>>> + *  used by this project. C11 memory model should always be used.
>>> + *  rte_atomic_thread_fence() should be used instead.
>>
>> It's somewhat confusing to learn I should use the C11 memory model, and then in the next
>> sentence that I should call a function which is not in C11.
> 
> I should say "memory order semantics". It will be more specific.
> The wrapper function rte_atomic_thread_fence is a special case. It provides an optimized implementation
> for __ATOMIC_SEQ_CST for x86:
> https://www.dpdk.org/blog/2021/03/26/dpdk-adopts-the-c11-memory-model/
> 
>>
>> I think it would be helpful to say which memory_model parameters should be used to replace
>> the rte_smp_*mb() calls, and if there are any difference in semantics between the Linux
>> kernel-style barriers and their C11 (near-)equivalents.
> 
> As compiler atomic built-ins are being used. The memory model parameters should be the ones listed in:
> https://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc/_005f_005fatomic-Builtins.html
> We are not taking Linux kernel-style barriers. So no need to mention that.
> 

Yeah, sure. But which one of the C11 memory models, for respective 
legacy barrier?

What you are moving from is Linux kernel-style barriers, so if you are 
to recommend a migration path, their semantics will matter.

>>
>> Is there some particular reason these functions aren't marked __rte_deprecated? Too many
>> warnings?
> 
> Yes, warnings will come up. Some occurrences still remain in the project.
> 
>>
>>>     */
>>>    static inline void rte_smp_mb(void);
>>>
>>> @@ -64,6 +69,11 @@ static inline void rte_smp_mb(void);
>>>     * Guarantees that the STORE operations that precede the
>>>     * rte_smp_wmb() call are globally visible across the lcores
>>>     * before the STORE operations that follows it.
>>> + *
>>> + * @note
>>> + *  This function is deprecated. It adds complexity to the memory
>>> + model
>>> + *  used by this project. C11 memory model should always be used.
>>> + *  rte_atomic_thread_fence() should be used instead.
>>>     */
>>>    static inline void rte_smp_wmb(void);
>>>
>>> @@ -73,6 +83,11 @@ static inline void rte_smp_wmb(void);
>>>     * Guarantees that the LOAD operations that precede the
>>>     * rte_smp_rmb() call are globally visible across the lcores
>>>     * before the LOAD operations that follows it.
>>> + *
>>> + * @note
>>> + *  This function is deprecated. It adds complexity to the memory
>>> + model
>>> + *  used by this project. C11 memory model should always be used.
>>> + *  rte_atomic_thread_fence() should be used instead.
>>>     */
>>>    static inline void rte_smp_rmb(void);
>>>    ///@}

  reply	other threads:[~2023-06-29 19:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-06-21  6:44 Ruifeng Wang
2023-06-21  7:29 ` Thomas Monjalon
2023-06-25  7:55   ` Ruifeng Wang
2023-06-22 18:19 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2023-06-23 21:51   ` Tyler Retzlaff
2023-06-25  8:45     ` Ruifeng Wang
2023-06-25 15:40       ` Thomas Monjalon
2023-06-25  8:17   ` Ruifeng Wang
2023-06-29 19:28     ` Mattias Rönnblom [this message]
2023-07-03  6:12       ` Ruifeng Wang
2023-06-26  7:12 ` [PATCH v2] " Ruifeng Wang
2023-06-29 19:43   ` Mattias Rönnblom
2023-07-03  7:02     ` Ruifeng Wang
2023-07-04 12:08       ` Mattias Rönnblom
2023-07-03  9:56 ` [PATCH v3] " Ruifeng Wang
2023-07-28  9:17   ` Thomas Monjalon

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