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From: Juraj Linkeš <juraj.linkes@pantheon.tech>
To: David Christensen <drc@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Bruce Richardson <bruce.richardson@intel.com>
Cc: "thomas@monjalon.net" <thomas@monjalon.net>,
	"david.marchand@redhat.com" <david.marchand@redhat.com>,
	"Honnappa.Nagarahalli@arm.com" <Honnappa.Nagarahalli@arm.com>,
	"Ruifeng.Wang@arm.com" <Ruifeng.Wang@arm.com>,
	"ferruh.yigit@intel.com" <ferruh.yigit@intel.com>,
	"jerinjacobk@gmail.com" <jerinjacobk@gmail.com>,
	"dev@dpdk.org" <dev@dpdk.org>
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4] build: optional NUMA and cpu counts detection
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2021 13:53:18 +0000
Message-ID: <fa796fd941394ab9bef5130971a48d5b@pantheon.tech> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c7bd1f52-134a-1726-488c-114d9fe8871c@linux.vnet.ibm.com>



> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Christensen <drc@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 6, 2021 8:11 PM
> To: Bruce Richardson <bruce.richardson@intel.com>; Juraj Linkeš
> <juraj.linkes@pantheon.tech>
> Cc: thomas@monjalon.net; david.marchand@redhat.com;
> Honnappa.Nagarahalli@arm.com; Ruifeng.Wang@arm.com;
> ferruh.yigit@intel.com; jerinjacobk@gmail.com; dev@dpdk.org
> Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4] build: optional NUMA and cpu counts
> detection
> 
> 
> 
> On 7/6/21 2:08 AM, Bruce Richardson wrote:
> > On Tue, Jul 06, 2021 at 08:56:37AM +0000, Juraj Linkeš wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Bruce Richardson <bruce.richardson@intel.com>
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2021 1:29 PM
> >>> To: Juraj Linkeš <juraj.linkes@pantheon.tech>
> >>> Cc: thomas@monjalon.net; david.marchand@redhat.com;
> >>> Honnappa.Nagarahalli@arm.com; Ruifeng.Wang@arm.com;
> >>> ferruh.yigit@intel.com; jerinjacobk@gmail.com; dev@dpdk.org
> >>> Subject: Re: [PATCH v4] build: optional NUMA and cpu counts
> >>> detection
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Jun 29, 2021 at 12:55:05PM +0200, Juraj Linkeš wrote:
> >>>> Add an option to automatically discover the host's numa and cpu
> >>>> counts and use those values for a non cross-build.
> >>>> Give users the option to override the per-arch default values or
> >>>> values from cross files by specifying them on the command line with
> >>>> -Dmax_lcores and -Dmax_numa_nodes.
> >>>>
> >>>> Signed-off-by: Juraj Linkeš <juraj.linkes@pantheon.tech>
> >>>> Reviewed-by: Honnappa Nagarahalli <honnappa.nagarahalli@arm.com>
> >>>> ---
> >>> Two very minor suggestions inline below.
> >>>
> >>> Acked-by: Bruce Richardson <bruce.richardson@intel.com>
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>> <snip>
> >>>> +max_lcores = get_option('max_lcores') if max_lcores == 'auto'
> >>>
> >>> Rather than "auto", would "detect" be a clearer name for this option value?
> >>>
> >>> <snip>
> >>>> +option('max_lcores', type: 'string', value: 'default', description:
> >>>> +       'Set maximum number of cores/threads supported by EAL. The
> >>>> +default is different per-arch. Set to auto to detect the number of
> >>>> +cores on the
> >>> build machine.') option('max_numa_nodes', type: 'string', value:
> >>> 'default',
> >>> description:
> >>>> +       'Set highest NUMA node supported by EAL. The default is
> >>>> +different per-arch. Set to auto to detect the highest numa node on
> >>>> +the build machine.')
> >>>
> >>> I'd put the explicit values of "default" and "auto"(or "detect") in
> >>> quotes "" to make clear they are literal values.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Thanks, Bruce, I'll change it. I have one extra question now that I'm looking
> at the patch:
> >> What does subprocess.run(['sysctl', '-n', 'vm.ndomains'], check=False) return
> exactly? Is the the number of NUMA nodes (looks like it) or the highest NUMA
> node on the system (the highest number of all NUMA nodes)? I'm asking
> because of how NUMA works on P9:
> >> NUMA node0 CPU(s):   0-63
> >> NUMA node8 CPU(s):   64-127
> >> NUMA node252 CPU(s):
> >> NUMA node253 CPU(s):
> >> NUMA node254 CPU(s):
> >> NUMA node255 CPU(s):
> >>
> >> Here we need not just two NUMA nodes, but at least 9 (0-8). Linux and
> Windows should return the highest NUMA, not sure about FreeBSD. Or maybe
> we should return the highest NUMA on which there are actual CPUs?
> >
> > I'm not sure, and I think to be really sure we'd need it tested on a
> > P9 system. The help text for the sysctl node says "Number of physical
> > memory domains available", which would imply 2 in the case above.
> > [However, we also would need to find out how BSD numbers the domains,
> > too, as it's possible an OS could just call them 0 and 1, rather than
> > 0 and 8 if it wanted to.]
> >
> > In short, we'd need to test to be sure. Is FreeBSD on P9 a supported
> > config, and if so can the P9 maintainer perhaps help out with testing?
> 
> Results of the v4 patch on an IBM AC922 P9 system with Linux:
> 

Can you get results from FreeBSD as well?

> $ python3 get-numa-count.py
> 8
> NUMA node0 CPU(s):   0-63
> NUMA node8 CPU(s):   64-127
<snip>
Is this the right number for your case, i.e. are you able to use both numa nodes when RTE_MAX_NUMA_NODES=8?

Or maybe this is a question for Bruce or Thomas - what do we need to set in RTE_MAX_NUMA_NODES to be able to use all numa nodes on the system? The highest numa node number or that + 1? In linux, with 4 numa nodes, there will be node0-node3 under /sys/devices/system/node - do we need to set RTE_MAX_NUMA_NODES to 3 or 4?

> OVS has a problem with requiring contiguous NUMA nodes that we've submitted
> patches to fix, so we need to ensure that's not a problem in DPDK.
> 
> I've been doing things like "--socket-mem=2048,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,2048" so far to
> manage the memory-to-NUMA mapping which has been working fine, so it
> depends on how vm.ndomains will be.
> 
> Dave


  reply	other threads:[~2021-07-16 13:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-11-20 12:55 [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v1 1/1] " Juraj Linkeš
2020-12-23 11:32 ` Juraj Linkeš
2021-03-31  9:06 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2] " Juraj Linkeš
2021-03-31 19:07   ` David Christensen
2021-04-16 12:43     ` Juraj Linkeš
2021-04-19 10:18   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3] " Juraj Linkeš
2021-04-28 19:33     ` David Christensen
2021-06-29 10:55     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4] " Juraj Linkeš
2021-06-29 11:28       ` Bruce Richardson
2021-07-06  8:56         ` Juraj Linkeš
2021-07-06  9:08           ` Bruce Richardson
2021-07-06 18:10             ` David Christensen
2021-07-16 13:53               ` Juraj Linkeš [this message]
2021-07-16 14:24                 ` Bruce Richardson
2021-07-20 20:49                 ` David Christensen
2021-07-21 12:41                   ` Juraj Linkeš
2021-06-29 18:00       ` Stephen Hemminger
2021-07-21 13:04       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5] " Juraj Linkeš
2021-08-02 12:44         ` Juraj Linkeš
2021-08-02 23:29           ` David Christensen
2021-08-03 10:21             ` Juraj Linkeš
2021-08-31  0:54               ` Piotr Kubaj
2021-08-31  7:54                 ` Juraj Linkeš
2021-08-31  8:02                   ` Bruce Richardson
2021-09-09  7:20                     ` Juraj Linkeš
2021-09-09  8:01                       ` Bruce Richardson
2021-09-09  8:08                         ` Thomas Monjalon
2021-09-09  8:42                           ` Juraj Linkeš
2021-09-09 16:44                         ` David Christensen
2021-08-31 12:32                   ` Piotr Kubaj
2021-08-17 10:45         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6] " Juraj Linkeš
2021-09-16  7:46           ` Thomas Monjalon

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