From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mga01.intel.com (mga01.intel.com [192.55.52.88]) by dpdk.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2042FDE5 for ; Wed, 25 Jan 2017 16:48:26 +0100 (CET) Received: from fmsmga005.fm.intel.com ([10.253.24.32]) by fmsmga101.fm.intel.com with ESMTP; 25 Jan 2017 07:48:25 -0800 X-ExtLoop1: 1 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.33,284,1477983600"; d="scan'208";a="57424433" Received: from fmsmsx107.amr.corp.intel.com ([10.18.124.205]) by fmsmga005.fm.intel.com with ESMTP; 25 Jan 2017 07:48:25 -0800 Received: from fmsmsx124.amr.corp.intel.com (10.18.125.39) by fmsmsx107.amr.corp.intel.com (10.18.124.205) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.248.2; Wed, 25 Jan 2017 07:48:25 -0800 Received: from fmsmsx113.amr.corp.intel.com ([169.254.13.230]) by fmsmsx124.amr.corp.intel.com ([169.254.8.190]) with mapi id 14.03.0248.002; Wed, 25 Jan 2017 07:48:25 -0800 From: "Wiles, Keith" To: "O'Driscoll, Tim" CC: "moving@dpdk.org" Thread-Topic: [dpdk-moving] Minutes from "Moving DPDK to Linux Foundation" call, January 24th Thread-Index: AdJ3AhNMzjAyJ8rETga3S7oZGlq/zAAIGLt3 Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2017 15:48:24 +0000 Message-ID: <19609074-037C-410D-8C49-9D47C366F5D2@intel.com> References: <26FA93C7ED1EAA44AB77D62FBE1D27BA722AFB94@IRSMSX108.ger.corp.intel.com> In-Reply-To: <26FA93C7ED1EAA44AB77D62FBE1D27BA722AFB94@IRSMSX108.ger.corp.intel.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [dpdk-moving] Minutes from "Moving DPDK to Linux Foundation" call, January 24th X-BeenThere: moving@dpdk.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: DPDK community structure changes List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2017 15:48:27 -0000 Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 25, 2017, at 4:57 AM, O'Driscoll, Tim wr= ote: >=20 > Here are my notes from yesterday's call. Please feel free to correct any = errors or to add additional details. >=20 > Attendees: Bruce Richardson (Intel), Ed Warnicke (Cisco), Erez Scop (Mell= anox), Francois-Frederic Ozog (Linaro), George Zhou (Huawei), Hemant Agrawa= l (NXP), Jan Blunck (Brocade), Jim St. Leger (Intel), John Bromhead (Cavium= ), John McNamara (Intel), Keith Wiles (Intel), Matt Spencer (ARM), Mike Dol= an (Linux Foundation), Olga Shern (Mellanox), Stephen Hemminger (Microsoft)= , Tim O'Driscoll (Intel), Vincent Jardin (6WIND). >=20 > Firstly, here are some links to help keep track of things: > Project Charter: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1x43ycfW3arJNX-e6NQt3= OVzAuNXtD7dppIhrY48FoGs > Draft budget estimate: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-3686Xb_jf= 4FtxdX8Mus9UwIxUb2vI_ppmJV5GnXcLg/edit#gid=3D302618256 > Summary of discussion at Userspace event in Dublin: http://dpdk.org/ml/ar= chives/dev/2016-October/049259.html > Minutes of October 31st call: http://dpdk.org/ml/archives/moving/2016-Nov= ember/000031.html > Minutes of November 8th call: http://dpdk.org/ml/archives/moving/2016-Nov= ember/000058.html > Minutes of November 15th call: http://dpdk.org/ml/archives/moving/2016-No= vember/000061.html > Minutes of November 22nd call: http://dpdk.org/ml/archives/moving/2016-No= vember/000085.html > Minutes of November 29th call: http://dpdk.org/ml/archives/moving/2016-No= vember/000099.html > Minutes of December 6th call: http://dpdk.org/ml/archives/moving/2016-Dec= ember/000121.html > Minutes of December 13th call: http://dpdk.org/ml/archives/moving/2016-De= cember/000124.html > Minutes of December 20th call: http://dpdk.org/ml/archives/moving/2016-De= cember/000127.html > Minutes of January 10th call: http://dpdk.org/ml/archives/moving/2017-Jan= uary/000136.html > Minutes of January 17th call: http://dpdk.org/ml/archives/moving/2017-Jan= uary/000157.html > Technical governance, including info on Maintainers and sub-trees: http:/= /dpdk.org/doc/guides/contributing/index.html & http://dpdk.org/dev. >=20 > Discussed next steps for identifying project members: > - Mike Dolan has posted a request on the moving@dpdk.org mailing list for= people interested in becoming project members to reply to him. He'll follo= w up individually with these people to discuss membership levels etc. >=20 > Membership costs: > - Discussed potential membership costs. My proposal was ~$50-100k for Gol= d, ~$5-$20k for Silver. Most agreed that this was a good starting point for= discussions. I thought we were trending toward the higher $100k range as the lab was goi= ng cost a fair bit am I wrong here? > - Vincent proposed a sliding scale for Silver based on the number of empl= oyees for companies and a reduced rate for universities.=20 > - Discussed how long the commitment should be on joining the project. Mik= e's guidance was that Gold usually involves a 2 year commitment but there's= only a 1 year commitment for Silver. Agreed that this is a good approach. >=20 > Lab Costs: > - Discussed whether lab costs should be included in the Gold membership l= evel or if they should be charged for separately. At the moment, the charte= r allows either option. Including lab costs in the Gold membership fee give= s a simpler funding model but the downside is that it raises the cost for G= old membership so it restricts the number of Gold members that we'll be abl= e to attract. > - Agreed that Mike will ask whether companies are interested in participa= ting in a DPDK lab when talking to potential project members. This will hel= p to decide on the right pricing approach for the lab. > - Whichever approach we take, we'll need to make sure that the lab budget= is carefully managed because if we do establish a lab but then some contri= butors pull out it will be difficult to cover costs. > - From previous discussions with the LF (see http://dpdk.org/ml/archives/= moving/2016-November/000058.html) lab costs for a full rack would start at = ~$200k/year. >=20 > Desired budget: > - There was a question on what budget level we're trying to reach. There = are two ways to approach this issue: a) we agree a required budget and then= adjust membership fees to match that; b) we set membership fees at a reaso= nable level and then prioritise how we spend the resulting budget. We discu= ssed previously and agreed on option b), but we can discuss this again at n= ext week's meeting. Mike may have some preliminary input from his membershi= p discussions by then which may help to guide this. >=20 > Next Meeting: > Tuesday January 31st at 3pm GMT, 4pm CET, 10am EST, 7am PST. We can discu= ss any preliminary input that Mike has from his membership discussions, dis= cuss the desired budget level, and hopefully get an update from the Tech Bo= ard on any changes they're planning to make. > Access numbers for the call are: > Skype meeting: https://meet.intel.com/tim.odriscoll/97F0Q1HF > France: +33 1588 77298 > UK: +44 179340 2663 > USA: +1 916 356 2663 =20 > Bridge Number: 5 > Conference ID: 120705852