From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mails.dpdk.org (mails.dpdk.org [217.70.189.124]) by inbox.dpdk.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BA0DA034F for ; Mon, 22 Mar 2021 12:41:11 +0100 (CET) Received: from [217.70.189.124] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mails.dpdk.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DF4A40689; Mon, 22 Mar 2021 12:41:11 +0100 (CET) Received: from mga12.intel.com (mga12.intel.com [192.55.52.136]) by mails.dpdk.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C0454003D; Mon, 22 Mar 2021 12:41:08 +0100 (CET) IronPort-SDR: 90RwumsywIdwvnXK+BrxF7Z7hAdrjw2V6rQ20BnJgtYhGqQsqXIkKJcwVyKUEjrnQ4jzPsd5BF 83fl6vB656cw== X-IronPort-AV: E=McAfee;i="6000,8403,9930"; a="169582334" X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.81,268,1610438400"; d="scan'208";a="169582334" Received: from fmsmga002.fm.intel.com ([10.253.24.26]) by fmsmga106.fm.intel.com with ESMTP/TLS/ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384; 22 Mar 2021 04:41:07 -0700 IronPort-SDR: /bYQ5H8uzcuoEkcMHeJaDGVPb2fEp2bwLjnFNPDtLT9XDs9oT8V7Zn6AYnQTta5psa7WH+gkHP 77YiLz68EL0A== X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.81,268,1610438400"; d="scan'208";a="441133992" Received: from bricha3-mobl.ger.corp.intel.com ([10.252.12.114]) by fmsmga002-auth.fm.intel.com with ESMTP/TLS/ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA; 22 Mar 2021 04:41:05 -0700 Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2021 11:41:01 +0000 From: Bruce Richardson To: Christian Ehrhardt Cc: "Pai G, Sunil" , Ilya Maximets , "Stokes, Ian" , "Govindharajan, Hariprasad" , Luca Boccassi , "stable@dpdk.org" , dev , James Page , Thomas Monjalon Message-ID: <20210322114101.GB1440@bricha3-MOBL.ger.corp.intel.com> References: <20200818181222.8462-1-bluca@debian.org> <20200901124747.GB1047@bricha3-MOBL.ger.corp.intel.com> <673266d4-3be7-dffb-daa6-019fd85ed4b2@ovn.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [dpdk-stable] [dpdk-dev] 19.11.4 patches review and test X-BeenThere: stable@dpdk.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: patches for DPDK stable branches List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: stable-bounces@dpdk.org Sender: "stable" On Mon, Mar 22, 2021 at 10:49:54AM +0100, Christian Ehrhardt wrote: > On Thu, Mar 18, 2021 at 7:25 PM Pai G, Sunil wrote: > > > > Hi Christian, Ilya > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Ilya Maximets > > > Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2021 8:18 PM > > > To: Pai G, Sunil ; Christian Ehrhardt > > > ; Stokes, Ian ; > > > Ilya Maximets ; Govindharajan, Hariprasad > > > > > > Cc: Richardson, Bruce ; Luca Boccassi > > > ; stable@dpdk.org; dev ; James Page > > > > > > Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] 19.11.4 patches review and test > > > > > > On 3/18/21 2:36 PM, Pai G, Sunil wrote: > > > > Hey Christian, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> back in 19.11.4 these DPDK changes were not picked up as they have > > > >> broken builds as discussed here. > > > >> Later on the communication was that all this works fine now and > > > >> thereby Luca has "reverted the reverts" in 19.11.6 [1]. > > > >> > > > >> But today we were made aware that still no OVS 2.13 builds against a > > > >> DPDK that has those changes. > > > >> Not 2.13.1 as we have it in Ubuntu nor (if it needs some OVS changes > > > >> backported) the recent 2.13.3 does build. > > > >> They still fail with the very same issue I reported [2] back then. > > > >> > > > >> Unfortunately I have just released 19.11.7 so I can't revert them > > > >> there - but OTOH reverting and counter reverting every other release > > > >> seems wrong anyway. > > > > > > It is wrong indeed, but the main question here is why these patches was > > > backported to stable release in a first place? > > > > > > Looking at these patches, they are not actual bug fixes but more like "nice to > > > have" features that additionally breaks the way application links with DPDK. > > > Stuff like that should not be acceptable to the stable release without a strong > > > justification or, at least, testing with actual applications. > > I agree, but TBH IIRC these changes were initially by OVS people :-) > One could chase down the old talks between Luca and the requesters, but I don't > think that gains us that much. > > > > Since we already have a revert of revert, revert of revert of revert doesn't > > > seem so bad. > > As long as we don't extend this series, yeah > > > > >> > > > >> I wanted to ask if there is a set of patches that OVS would need to > > > >> backport to 2.13.x to make this work? > > > >> If they could be identified and prepared Distros could use them on > > > >> 2.13.3 asap and 2.13.4 could officially release them for OVS later on. > > > >> > > > >> But for that we'd need a hint which OVS changes that would need to be. > > > >> All I know atm is from the testing reports on DPDK it seems that OVS > > > >> 2.14.3 and 2.15 are happy with the new DPDK code. > > > > > > > >> Do you have pointers on what 2.13.3 would need to get backported to > > > >> work again in regard to this build issue. > > > > > > > > You would need to use partial contents from patch : > > > > http://patchwork.ozlabs.org/project/openvswitch/patch/1608142365- > > > 26215 > > > > -1-git-send-email-ian.stokes@intel.com/ > > > > > > > > If you'd like me to send patches which would work with 2.13, 2.14, I'm > > > > ok with that too.[keeping only those parts from patch which fixes the issue > > > you see.] But we must ensure it doesn’t cause problems for OVS too. > > > > Your thoughts Ilya ? > > > > > > We had more fixes on top of this particular patch and I'd like to not cherry- > > > pick and re-check all of this again. > > > > I agree, we had more fixes on top of this. It would be risky to cherry-pick. > > So it might be a better option to revert. > > I agree, as far as I assessed the situation it would mean the revert > of the following list. > And since that is a lot of "reverts" in the string, to be clear it means that > those original changes would not be present anymore in 19.11.x. > > f49248a990 Revert "Revert "build/pkg-config: prevent overlinking"" > 39586a4cf0 Revert "Revert "build/pkg-config: improve static linking flags"" > 906e935a1f Revert "Revert "build/pkg-config: output drivers first for > static build"" > deebf95239 Revert "Revert "build/pkg-config: move pkg-config file creation"" > a3bd9a34bf Revert "Revert "build: always link whole DPDK static libraries"" > d4bc124438 Revert "Revert "devtools: test static linkage with pkg-config"" > > But to avoid going back&forth I'd prefer to have a signed-off on that > approach from: > - Luca (for 19.11.6 which has added the changes) > - Bruce (for being involved in the old&new case in general) > - Thomas (for general master maintainer thoughts) > If this is what is needed to ensure OVS can continue to use this release series, then I am absolutely fine with it. /Bruce