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From: Shally Verma <shallyv@marvell.com>
To: "Trahe, Fiona" <fiona.trahe@intel.com>, "dev@dpdk.org" <dev@dpdk.org>
Cc: "akhil.goyal@nxp.com" <akhil.goyal@nxp.com>,
	Ashish Gupta <ashishg@marvell.com>,
	"Daly, Lee" <lee.daly@intel.com>, Sunila Sahu <ssahu@marvell.com>,
	"stable@dpdk.org" <stable@dpdk.org>
Subject: Re: [dpdk-stable] [PATCH v2] doc/compress: clarify error handling on data-plane
Date: Wed, 8 May 2019 12:41:23 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <BN6PR1801MB205277B0BD0BE30955956136AD320@BN6PR1801MB2052.namprd18.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <348A99DA5F5B7549AA880327E580B435897553D3@IRSMSX101.ger.corp.intel.com>

Hi Fiona


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Trahe, Fiona <fiona.trahe@intel.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 7, 2019 11:54 PM
> To: Shally Verma <shallyv@marvell.com>; dev@dpdk.org
> Cc: akhil.goyal@nxp.com; Ashish Gupta <ashishg@marvell.com>; Daly, Lee
> <lee.daly@intel.com>; Sunila Sahu <ssahu@marvell.com>; stable@dpdk.org;
> Trahe, Fiona <fiona.trahe@intel.com>
> Subject: RE: [PATCH v2] doc/compress: clarify error handling on data-plane
> 
> Hi Shally
> 
> > > > > +
> > > > > +There are some exceptions whereby errors can occur on the
> > > ``enqueue``.
> > > > > +For any error which can occur in a production environment and
> > > > > +can be successful after a retry with the same op the PMD may
> > > > > +return the error on the enqueue.
> > > > This statement looks bit confusing.
> > > > Seems like we are trying to add a description regarding op status
> > > > check even after the enqueue call unlike current scenario, where
> > > > app only check for it after dequeue?
> > > [Fiona] The line following this explains that there is no need to
> > > check op.status in this case.
> > > Maybe it's not obvious that the application SHOULD check that all
> > > ops are enqueued?
> > > I can reword as:
> > > The application should always check the value returned by the enqueue.
> > > If less than the full burst is enqueued there's no need for the
> > > application to check op.status of any or every op - it can simply
> > > retry from the return
> > > value+1 in a later enqueue and expect success.
> > >
> >  I agree to purpose of patch but have these confusions when I read
> description above:
> >
> > My understand is , if op status is INVALID_ARGS or any ERROR which is
> > permanent in nature, Then nb_enqd return will be less than actually
> passed.
> [Fiona] True.
> 
> > Regardless of whatever reason, if any time app gets nb_enqd < actually
> > passed, then app should check status of nb_enqd + 1th op
> [Fiona]. No, that's exactly what I was proposing to avoid.
> 
> > to find exact cause of failure and then either attempt re-enqueue Or
> > correct op preparation or take any other appropriate action.
> [Fiona] I was proposing to constrain PMDs to only return a subset of errors
> on the enqueue, so apps could be optimised.
> But if you think it's not possible for PMDs to comply with it, then yes, apps
> would always have to check status of nb_enqd + 1th op, and fork depending
> on the status.
> Is this the case?
> If so, much of this patch is unnecessary and I'll send a simplified v3 as almost
> any status can be returned anywhere.
> 
[Shally] Okay. I seem to understand it now. 
Purpose seem reasonable just a simpler rephrase would help.
It will be easier for me to further feedback on 1st v2 patch sent. So will send it another email.

> 
> > Also, STATUS_ERROR is very generic, it can be when queue is full in
> > which case app can re-attempt an enqueue of same op
>  OR
> > It can also indicate any irrecoverable error on enqueue, in which app
> > just probably has to reset everything. For such kind of case, it might
> > not be possible for PMD design to even push it into completion queue
> > for an app to dequeue .  I would suggest  add another status code type
> > which reflect permanent error condition i.e. irrecoverable error code
> > which tells an app to perform PMD qp reset/re-init to recover and simplify
> description just to state an expected APP behavior to avoid infinite loop
> condition.
> > It is then an app choice whether or not to check for op status for
> > error after enqueue depending on whether its running in production
> environment or dev environment.
> [Fiona] I wouldn't expect ERROR in a queue full case. I'd see ERROR as the
> catch-all when some other specific status isn't appropriate. If you think
> there's a need for another specific status then best send an API patch
> proposing it. This patch is only documenting the existing set.

[Shally] Sorry, I missed. STATUS_NOT_PROCESSED can be indication of queue_full. 
STATUS_ERROR on dequeue = any catch-all error case
STATUS_ERROR on enqueue = any irrecoverable error on op. app should not attempt same op or may be reset queue pair or PMD.

Is this interpretation correct?

  reply	other threads:[~2019-05-08 12:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-04-08 16:14 [dpdk-stable] [PATCH] " Fiona Trahe
2019-04-09 14:55 ` [dpdk-stable] [PATCH v2] " Fiona Trahe
2019-04-18 12:12   ` Shally Verma
2019-04-30 16:33     ` Trahe, Fiona
2019-05-07 17:14       ` Shally Verma
2019-05-07 18:24         ` Trahe, Fiona
2019-05-08 12:41           ` Shally Verma [this message]
2019-05-08 14:00             ` Trahe, Fiona
2019-05-09  8:58               ` Akhil Goyal
2019-05-09 10:44   ` Shally Verma
2019-05-14 15:29     ` Trahe, Fiona
2019-05-14 15:37       ` Shally Verma
2019-05-15 11:16   ` [dpdk-stable] [PATCH v3] " Fiona Trahe
2019-05-15 11:43     ` Jozwiak, TomaszX
2019-05-15 12:03     ` Shally Verma
2019-06-19 14:57       ` Akhil Goyal
2019-04-16 15:02 [dpdk-stable] [PATCH v2] " Akhil Goyal

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