From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.redhat.com (mx1.redhat.com [209.132.183.28]) by dpdk.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CAFC2C29; Mon, 17 Oct 2016 23:23:45 +0200 (CEST) Received: from int-mx14.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com (int-mx14.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com [10.5.11.27]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D0F4B85540; Mon, 17 Oct 2016 21:23:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dhcp-41-137.bos.redhat.com (ovpn-116-160.phx2.redhat.com [10.3.116.160]) by int-mx14.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id u9HLNhsH015495 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 17 Oct 2016 17:23:44 -0400 To: "O'Driscoll, Tim" , Hobywan Kenoby , "dev@dpdk.org" , "users@dpdk.org" References: <26FA93C7ED1EAA44AB77D62FBE1D27BA675F0B5A@IRSMSX108.ger.corp.intel.com> <26FA93C7ED1EAA44AB77D62FBE1D27BA675F6F33@IRSMSX108.ger.corp.intel.com> From: Dave Neary Message-ID: <5805415E.3030102@redhat.com> Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2016 17:23:42 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <26FA93C7ED1EAA44AB77D62FBE1D27BA675F6F33@IRSMSX108.ger.corp.intel.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.68 on 10.5.11.27 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.5.16 (mx1.redhat.com [10.5.110.28]); Mon, 17 Oct 2016 21:23:44 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [dpdk-users] [dpdk-dev] Project Governance and Linux Foundation X-BeenThere: users@dpdk.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: usage discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2016 21:23:45 -0000 Hi, On 10/17/2016 07:52 AM, O'Driscoll, Tim wrote: >> -----Original Message----- >> I don't really understand what can be gained by moving to Linux >> Foundation, but I am almost sure that no individual expert will be able >> to take any leaderhip role as those roles will be fulfilled by Platinum, >> Gold or Silver members: right ? > > No. If DPDK were to move to LF as an independent project, then as discussed at the Userspace event in Dublin last year, and as documented in the original post below, the intention would be not to make any significant changes to the technical governance. > > If DPDK were to move to FD.io the situation would be the same. The FD.io Technical Community Charter (https://fd.io/governance/technical-community-charter) specifies how Project Technical Leaders and Committers are nominated and approved, but there's no requirement for people in those roles to come from Platinum, Gold or Silver FD.io members. Those decisions are based purely on technical merit. I just want to second what Tim said - it's important for Red Hat, at least, that the technical governance of a project be kept separate from any membership of an organization managing the budget for the project. The technical management of the project can also be discussed, but it is out of scope, IMHO, when talking about moving to fd.io or the Linux Foundation. >> The current DPDK version can run on virtually all processors (Intel, IBM >> and ARM) and leverage all NICs: is there **really** anyone questionning >> openness of the community? > > I still hear concerns on this, and based on discussions with others who put their names to the post below, they do too. I think it's a perception that we need to address. I would say that there is still a perception issue, for companies who look at the active developers, the owners of the project's resources (infra, domain name), and who have heard anecdotal evidence of issues in the past. I think the project has made a lot of progress since I have been following it, and I do not believe there are any major issues with the independence of the project. However, there are still concerned parties on this front, and the concerns can be easily addressed by a move to the LF. Regards, Dave. -- Dave Neary - NFV/SDN Community Strategy Open Source and Standards, Red Hat - http://community.redhat.com Ph: +1-978-399-2182 / Cell: +1-978-799-3338