Re: [dpdk-users] Multi-process recovery (is it even possible?)

["Lazarenko, Vlad (WorldQuant)" <Vlad.Lazarenko@worldquant.com>]

Hello Jianfeng,

Thanks for getting back to me.  I thought about using "udata64", too. But that didn't work for me if a single packet was fanned out to multiple slave processes.  But most importantly, it looks like if a slave process crashes somewhere in the middle of getting or putting packets from/to a pool, we could end up with a deadlock. So I guess I'd have to think about a different design or be ready to bounce all of the processes if one of them fails.

Thanks,
Vlad

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tan, Jianfeng [mailto:jianfeng.tan@intel.com]
> Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2018 3:20 AM
> To: Lazarenko, Vlad (WorldQuant); 'users@dpdk.org'
> Subject: RE: Multi-process recovery (is it even possible?)
> 
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: users [mailto:users-bounces@dpdk.org] On Behalf Of Lazarenko,
> > Vlad
> > (WorldQuant)
> > Sent: Thursday, March 1, 2018 2:54 AM
> > To: 'users@dpdk.org'
> > Subject: [dpdk-users] Multi-process recovery (is it even possible?)
> >
> > Guys,
> >
> > I am looking for possible solutions for the following problems that
> > come along with asymmetric multi-process architecture...
> >
> > Given multiple processes share the same RX/TX queue(s) and packet
> > pool(s) and the possibility of one packet from RX queue being fanned
> > out to multiple slave processes, is there a way to recover from slave
> > crashing (or exits w/o cleaning up properly)? In theory it could have
> > incremented mbuf reference count more than once and unless everything
> > is restarted, I don't see a reliable way to release those mbufs back to the
> pool.
> 
> Recycle an element is too difficult; from what I know, it's next to impossible.
> To recycle a memzone/mempool is easier. So in your case, you might want to
> use different pools for different queues (processes).
> 
> If you really want to recycle an element, rte_mbuf in your case, it might be
> doable by:
> 1. set up rx callback for each process, and in the callback, store a special flag
> at rte_mbuf->udata64.
> 2. when the primary to detect a secondary is down, we iterate all element
> with the special flag, and put them back into the ring.
> 
> There is small chance to fail that , mbuf is allocated by a secondary process,
> and before it's flagged, it crashes.
> 
> Thanks,
> Jianfeng
> 
> 
> >
> > Also, if spinlock is involved and either master or slave crashes,
> > everything simply gets stuck. Is there any way to detect this (i.e. outside of
> data path)..?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Vlad
> >



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