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From: "Hu, Xuekun" <xuekun.hu@intel.com>
To: "Александр Киселев" <kiselev99@gmail.com>
Cc: Shawn Lewis <smlsr@tencara.com>, "users@dpdk.org" <users@dpdk.org>
Subject: Re: [dpdk-users] Lcore impact
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2016 20:43:51 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <88A92D351643BA4CB23E303155170626150A9C16@SHSMSX101.ccr.corp.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAMKNYbxYnwH+BcUAqM+HCfje+vuo17QZFd360cdmuU=sx_m-2w@mail.gmail.com>

Perf could. Or PCM, that is also a good tool. https://software.intel.com/en-us/articles/intel-performance-counter-monitor-a-better-way-to-measure-cpu-utilization

From: Александр Киселев [mailto:kiselev99@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2016 3:31 AM
To: Hu, Xuekun
Cc: Shawn Lewis; users@dpdk.org
Subject: Re: [dpdk-users] Lcore impact



2016-04-14 20:49 GMT+03:00 Hu, Xuekun <xuekun.hu@intel.com<mailto:xuekun.hu@intel.com>>:
Are the two lcore belonging to one processor, or two processors? What the memory footprint is for the system call threads? If the memory footprint is big (>LLC cache size) and two locre are in the same processor, then it could have impact on packet processing thread.

Those two lcores belong to one processor and it's a single processor machine.

Both cores allocates a lot of memory and use the full dpdk arsenal: lpm, mempools, hashes and etc. But during the test the core doing socket data transfering is using only small 16k buffer for sending and sending is the all it does during the test. It doesn't use any other allocated memory structures. The processing core in turn is using rte_lpm whitch is big, but in my test there are only about 10 routes in it, so I think the amount "hot" memory is not very big. But I can't say if it's bigger than l3 cpu cache or not. Should I use some profilers and see if socket operations cause a lot of cache miss in the processing lcore? It there some tool that allows me to do that? perf maybe?




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From: users [mailto:users-bounces@dpdk.org<mailto:users-bounces@dpdk.org>] On Behalf Of Alexander Kiselev
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2016 1:19 AM
To: Shawn Lewis
Cc: users@dpdk.org<mailto:users@dpdk.org>
Subject: Re: [dpdk-users] Lcore impact

I've already seen this documen and have used this tricks a lot of times. But this time I send data locally over localhost. There is even no nics bind to linux in my machine. Therefore there is no nics interruptions I can pin to cpu. So what do you propose?

> 14 апр. 2016 г., в 20:06, Shawn Lewis <smlsr@tencara.com<mailto:smlsr@tencara.com>> написал(а):
>
> You have to work with IRQBalancer as well
>
> http://www.intel.com/content/dam/doc/application-note/82575-82576-82598-82599-ethernet-controllers-interrupts-appl-note.pdf
>
> Is just an example document which discuss this (not so much DPDK related)...  But the OS will attempt to balance the interrupts when you actually want to remove or pin them down...
>
>> On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 1:02 PM, Alexander Kiselev <kiselev99@gmail.com<mailto:kiselev99@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> 14 апр. 2016 г., в 19:35, Shawn Lewis <smlsr@tencara.com<mailto:smlsr@tencara.com>> написал(а):
>>>
>>> Lots of things...
>>>
>>> One just because you have a process running on an lcore, does not mean thats all that runs on it.  Unless you have told the kernel at boot to NOT use those specific cores, those cores will be used for many things OS related.
>>
>> Generally yes, but unless I start sending data to socket there is no packet loss.  I did about 10 test runs in a raw and everythis was ok. And there is no other application running on that test machine that uses cpu cores.
>>
>> So the question is why this socket operations influence the other lcore?
>>
>>>
>>> IRQBlance
>>> System OS operations.
>>> Other Applications.
>>>
>>> So by doing file i/o you are generating interrupts, where those interrupts get serviced is up to IRQBalancer.  So could be any one of your cores.
>>
>> That is a good point. I can use cpu affinity feature to bind unterruption handler to the core not used in my test. But I send data locally over localhost. Is it possible to use cpu affinity in that case?
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 12:31 PM, Alexander Kiselev <kiselev99@gmail.com<mailto:kiselev99@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>> Could someone give me any hints about what could cause permormance issues in a situation where one lcore doing a lot of linux system calls (read/write on socket) slow down the other lcore doing packet forwarding? In my test the forwarding lcore doesn't share any memory structures with the other lcore that sends test data to socket. Both lcores pins to different processors cores. So therotically they shouldn't have any impact on each other but they do, once one lcore starts sending data to socket the other lcore starts dropping packets. Why?
>>>
>



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С уважением,
Киселев Александр

  reply	other threads:[~2016-04-14 20:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-04-14 16:31 Alexander Kiselev
2016-04-14 16:35 ` Shawn Lewis
2016-04-14 17:02   ` Alexander Kiselev
2016-04-14 17:06     ` Shawn Lewis
2016-04-14 17:18       ` Alexander Kiselev
2016-04-14 17:49         ` Hu, Xuekun
2016-04-14 19:31           ` Александр Киселев
2016-04-14 20:43             ` Hu, Xuekun [this message]
2016-04-14 21:32               ` Александр Киселев
2016-04-14 22:09                 ` Hu, Xuekun
2016-04-14 22:47                   ` Александр Киселев
2016-04-14 23:51                     ` Александр Киселев

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