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From: Ilya Maximets <i.maximets@samsung.com>
To: Bruce Richardson <bruce.richardson@intel.com>,
	Luca Boccassi <bluca@debian.org>
Cc: dev@dpdk.org, Thomas Monjalon <thomas@monjalon.net>,
	Aaron Conole <aconole@redhat.com>,
	Kevin Traynor <ktraynor@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 2/2] meson: make build configurable
Date: Thu, 30 May 2019 14:46:10 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <95099b74-d74d-e10c-3491-a59a9663ba66@samsung.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190530102229.GC1107@bricha3-MOBL.ger.corp.intel.com>

On 30.05.2019 13:22, Bruce Richardson wrote:
> On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 09:37:20PM +0100, Luca Boccassi wrote:
>> On Wed, 2019-05-29 at 19:39 +0300, Ilya Maximets wrote:
>>> The first thing many developers do before start building DPDK is
>>> disabling all the not needed divers and libraries. This happens
>>> just because more than a half of DPDK dirvers and libraries are not
>>> needed for the particular reason. For example, you don't need
>>> dpaa*, octeon*, various croypto devices, eventdev, etc. if you're
>>> only want to build OVS for x86_64 with static linking.
>>>
>>> By disabling everything you don't need, build speeds up literally 10x
>>> times. This is important for CI systems. For example, TravisCI wastes
>>> 10 minutes for the default DPDK build just to check linking with OVS.
>>>
>>> Another thing is the binary size. Number of DPDK libraries and,
>>> as a result, size of resulted statically linked application decreases
>>> significantly.
>>>
>>> Important thing also that you're able to not install some
>>> dependencies
>>> if you don't have them on a target platform. Just disable
>>> libs/drivers
>>> that depends on it. Similar thing for the glibc version mismatch
>>> between build and target platforms.
>>>
>>> Also, I have to note that less code means less probability of
>>> failures and less number of attack vectors.
>>>
>>> This patch gives 'meson' the power of configurability that we
>>> have with 'make'. Using new options it's possible to enable just
>>> what you need and nothing more.
>>>
>>> For example, following cmdline could be used to build almost minimal
>>> set of DPDK libs and drivers to check OVS build:
>>>
>>>   $ meson build -Dexamples='' -Dtests=false -Denable_kmods=false \
>>>                 -Ddrivers_bus=pci,vdev          \
>>>                 -Ddrivers_mempool=ring          \
>>>                 -Ddrivers_net=null,virtio,ring  \
>>>                 -Ddrivers_crypto=virtio         \
>>>                 -Ddrivers_compress=none         \
>>>                 -Ddrivers_event=none            \
>>>                 -Ddrivers_baseband=none         \
>>>                 -Ddrivers_raw=none              \
>>>                 -Ddrivers_common=none           \
>>>                
>>> -Dlibs=kvargs,eal,cmdline,ring,mempool,mbuf,net,meter,\
>>>                        ethdev,pci,hash,cryptodev,pdump,vhost \
>>>                 -Dapps=none
>>>
>>> Adding a few real net drivers will give configuration that can be
>>> used
>>> in production environment.
>>>
>>> Looks not very pretty, but this could be moved to a script.
>>>
>>> Build details:
>>>
>>>   Build targets in project: 57
>>>
>>>   $ time ninja
>>>   real    0m11,528s
>>>   user    1m4,137s
>>>   sys     0m4,935s
>>>
>>>   $ du -sh ../dpdk_meson_install/
>>>   3,5M    ../dpdk_meson_install/
>>>
>>> To compare with what we have without these options:
>>>
>>>   $ meson build -Dexamples='' -Dtests=false -Denable_kmods=false
>>>   Build targets in project: 434
>>>
>>>   $ time ninja
>>>   real    1m38,963s
>>>   user    10m18,624s
>>>   sys     0m45,478s
>>>
>>>   $ du -sh ../dpdk_meson_install/
>>>   27M     ../dpdk_meson_install/
>>>
>>> 10x speed up for the user time.
>>> 7.7 times size decrease.
>>>
>>> This is probably not much user-friendly because it's not a Kconfig
>>> and dependency tracking in meson is really poor, so it requires
>>> usually few iterations to pick correct set of libraries to satisfy
>>> all dependencies. However, it's not a big deal. Options intended
>>> for a proficient users who knows what they need.
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> We talked about this a few times in the past, and it was actually one
>> of the design goals to _avoid_ replicating the octopus-like config
>> system of the makefiles. That's because it makes the test matrix
>> insanely complicated, not to mention the harm to user friendliness,
>> among other things.
>>
>> If someone doesn't want to use a PMD, they can just avoid installing it
>> - it's simple enough.
>>
>> Sorry, but from me it's a very strong NACK.
>>
> I would agree with this position - tracking the dependencies of the
> libraries etc. is a nightmare, and requires lots of ifdef'ery in the code
> for handling cases where libraries don't exist.
> 
> However, I might be ok with limiting the drivers somewhat, since they don't
> tend to depend on each other so much, though ideally I'd still prefer to
> have one build of DPDK that has minimal configuration. If we say that we
> can disable some drivers, though,  issue then becomes whether e.g. the bus
> drivers could selectively be disabled, and the knock-on effects of that.
> I'd hate to see the case where we end up having the meson.build files for
> drivers becoming a massive list of conditional checks for a bunch of
> internal dependencies. If someone is wanting to do a custom build of DPDK,
> they can always patch out the subdirectories they don't want in the
> meson.build files - but because of testing matrixes for such
> configurations, I don't think its something we want to explicitly support.

Thanks Bruce.
I see your point.

Please, take a look at the first patch of this series. It doesn't directly
connected to this one, but should speed up meson configuration a bit.

Best regards, Ilya Maximets.

      reply	other threads:[~2019-05-30 11:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <CGME20190529164004eucas1p154674b298c0b906f663ae04ebfcbc33c@eucas1p1.samsung.com>
2019-05-29 16:39 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 0/2] Make meson configurable Ilya Maximets
     [not found]   ` <CGME20190529164006eucas1p296e902a46cb3ef7ac436d619f9e55d5b@eucas1p2.samsung.com>
2019-05-29 16:39     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 1/2] meson: don't check dependencies for tests if not required Ilya Maximets
2019-05-30 11:55       ` Bruce Richardson
2019-05-30 12:06         ` Ilya Maximets
2019-05-30 12:20           ` Bruce Richardson
     [not found]       ` <CGME20190530123840eucas1p216e6df3737209db26e2b0ce678ba9da4@eucas1p2.samsung.com>
2019-05-30 12:38         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2] " Ilya Maximets
2019-05-30 12:48           ` Bruce Richardson
2019-06-05 16:48             ` Thomas Monjalon
2019-05-30 13:08           ` Aaron Conole
2019-05-30 13:34           ` Luca Boccassi
     [not found]   ` <CGME20190529164009eucas1p289f1dcf87012ecf049efc8eee2c2ea9d@eucas1p2.samsung.com>
2019-05-29 16:39     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 2/2] meson: make build configurable Ilya Maximets
2019-05-29 20:15       ` Michael Santana Francisco
2019-05-30  9:22         ` Ilya Maximets
2019-05-29 20:37       ` Luca Boccassi
2019-05-30 10:03         ` Ilya Maximets
2019-05-30 11:06           ` Luca Boccassi
2019-05-30 11:59             ` Ilya Maximets
2019-05-30 13:30               ` Luca Boccassi
2019-05-30 10:22         ` Bruce Richardson
2019-05-30 11:46           ` Ilya Maximets [this message]

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