From: "Ananyev, Konstantin" <konstantin.ananyev@intel.com>
To: Honnappa Nagarahalli <Honnappa.Nagarahalli@arm.com>,
Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>,
Phil Yang <Phil.Yang@arm.com>
Cc: "thomas@monjalon.net" <thomas@monjalon.net>,
"dev@dpdk.org" <dev@dpdk.org>,
"Richardson, Bruce" <bruce.richardson@intel.com>,
"Yigit, Ferruh" <ferruh.yigit@intel.com>,
"hemant.agrawal@nxp.com" <hemant.agrawal@nxp.com>,
"jerinj@marvell.com" <jerinj@marvell.com>,
"ktraynor@redhat.com" <ktraynor@redhat.com>,
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"olivier.matz@6wind.com" <olivier.matz@6wind.com>,
"mb@smartsharesystems.com" <mb@smartsharesystems.com>,
"mattias.ronnblom@ericsson.com" <mattias.ronnblom@ericsson.com>,
"Van Haaren, Harry" <harry.van.haaren@intel.com>,
"Carrillo, Erik G" <erik.g.carrillo@intel.com>, nd <nd@arm.com>,
nd <nd@arm.com>
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 4/4] eal/atomic: add wrapper for c11 atomics
Date: Wed, 13 May 2020 11:53:58 +0000 [thread overview]
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> <snip>
>
> Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 4/4] eal/atomic: add wrapper for c11 atomics
>
> On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 4:03 pm, Phil Yang <mailto:phil.yang@arm.com> wrote:
>
> parameter. Signed-off-by: Phil Yang <mailto:phil.yang@arm.com>
>
>
> What is the purpose of having rte_atomic at all?
> Is this level of indirection really helping?
> [HONNAPPA] (not sure why this email has html format, converted to text format)
> I believe you meant, why not use the __atomic_xxx built-ins directly? The only reason for now is handling of
> __atomic_thread_fence(__ATOMIC_SEQ_CST) for x86. This is equivalent to rte_smp_mb which has an optimized implementation for x86.
> According to Konstantin, the compiler does not generate optimal code. Wrapping that built-in alone is going to be confusing.
>
> The wrappers also allow us to have our own implementation using inline assembly for compilers versions that do not support C11 atomic
> built-ins. But, I do not know if there is a need to support those versions.
Few thoughts from my side about that patch:
Yes, for __atomic_thread_fence(__ATOMIC_SEQ_CST) generates full 'mfence' which is quite expensive,
and can be a avoided for SMP case.
Though I don't see why we need to create our own wrappers for *all* __atomic buitins.
From my perspective it would be sufficient to just introduce few of them:
rte_thread_fence_XXX (where XXX - supported memory-orders: RELEASE, ACUIQRE, SEQ_CST, etc.).
For all other __atomic built-ins I don't see any problem to use them directly,
without introducing any wrappers around.
As a side note, this patch implements rte_atomic_thread_fence() as a simple wrapper around
__atomic_thread_fence(), so concern mentioned above is not addressed.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-05-13 11:54 UTC|newest]
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2020-03-12 7:44 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 01/10] doc: add generic atomic deprecation section Phil Yang
2020-03-12 7:44 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 02/10] devtools: prevent use of rte atomic APIs in future patches Phil Yang
2020-03-12 7:44 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 03/10] vhost: optimize broadcast rarp sync with c11 atomic Phil Yang
2020-03-12 7:44 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 04/10] ipsec: optimize with c11 atomic for sa outbound sqn update Phil Yang
2020-03-12 7:44 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 05/10] service: remove rte prefix from static functions Phil Yang
2020-03-12 7:44 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 06/10] service: remove redundant code Phil Yang
2020-03-12 7:44 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 07/10] service: avoid race condition for MT unsafe service Phil Yang
2020-03-12 7:44 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 08/10] service: identify service running on another core correctly Phil Yang
2020-03-12 7:44 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 09/10] service: optimize with c11 one-way barrier Phil Yang
2020-03-12 7:44 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 10/10] service: relax barriers with C11 atomic operations Phil Yang
2020-03-17 1:17 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 00/12] generic rte atomic APIs deprecate proposal Phil Yang
2020-03-17 1:17 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 01/12] doc: add generic atomic deprecation section Phil Yang
2020-03-17 1:17 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 02/12] devtools: prevent use of rte atomic APIs in future patches Phil Yang
2020-03-17 1:17 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 03/12] eal/build: add libatomic dependency for 32-bit clang Phil Yang
2020-04-24 6:08 ` Phil Yang
2020-03-17 1:17 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 04/12] build: remove redundant code Phil Yang
2020-04-24 6:14 ` Phil Yang
2020-03-17 1:17 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 05/12] vhost: optimize broadcast rarp sync with c11 atomic Phil Yang
2020-04-23 16:54 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2] " Phil Yang
2020-04-27 8:57 ` Maxime Coquelin
2020-04-28 16:06 ` Maxime Coquelin
2020-03-17 1:17 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 06/12] ipsec: optimize with c11 atomic for sa outbound sqn update Phil Yang
2020-03-23 18:48 ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2020-03-23 19:07 ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2020-03-23 19:18 ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2020-03-23 20:20 ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2020-03-24 13:10 ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2020-03-24 13:21 ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2020-03-24 10:37 ` Phil Yang
2020-03-24 11:03 ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2020-03-25 9:38 ` Phil Yang
2020-04-23 17:16 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2] " Phil Yang
2020-04-23 17:45 ` Jerin Jacob
2020-04-24 4:49 ` Phil Yang
2020-04-23 18:10 ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2020-04-24 4:35 ` Phil Yang
2020-04-24 4:33 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3] " Phil Yang
2020-04-24 11:17 ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2020-05-09 21:51 ` Akhil Goyal
2020-03-17 1:17 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 07/12] service: remove rte prefix from static functions Phil Yang
2020-04-03 11:57 ` Van Haaren, Harry
2020-04-08 10:14 ` Phil Yang
2020-04-08 10:36 ` Van Haaren, Harry
2020-04-08 10:49 ` Phil Yang
2020-04-05 21:35 ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2020-04-08 10:14 ` Phil Yang
2020-04-23 16:31 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 0/6] use c11 atomics for service core lib Phil Yang
2020-04-23 16:31 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 1/6] service: fix race condition for MT unsafe service Phil Yang
2020-04-29 16:51 ` Van Haaren, Harry
2020-04-29 22:48 ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2020-05-01 14:21 ` Van Haaren, Harry
2020-05-01 14:56 ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2020-05-01 17:51 ` Van Haaren, Harry
2020-04-23 16:31 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 2/6] service: identify service running on another core correctly Phil Yang
2020-04-23 16:31 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 3/6] service: remove rte prefix from static functions Phil Yang
2020-04-23 16:31 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 4/6] service: remove redundant code Phil Yang
2020-04-23 16:31 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 5/6] service: optimize with c11 atomics Phil Yang
2020-04-23 16:31 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 6/6] service: relax barriers with C11 atomics Phil Yang
2020-05-02 0:02 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 0/6] use c11 atomics for service core lib Honnappa Nagarahalli
2020-05-02 0:02 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 1/6] service: fix race condition for MT unsafe service Honnappa Nagarahalli
2020-05-05 14:48 ` Van Haaren, Harry
2020-05-02 0:02 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 2/6] service: identify service running on another core correctly Honnappa Nagarahalli
2020-05-05 14:48 ` Van Haaren, Harry
2020-05-02 0:02 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 3/6] service: remove rte prefix from static functions Honnappa Nagarahalli
2020-05-05 14:48 ` Van Haaren, Harry
2020-05-02 0:02 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 4/6] service: remove redundant code Honnappa Nagarahalli
2020-05-05 14:48 ` Van Haaren, Harry
2020-05-02 0:02 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 5/6] service: optimize with c11 atomics Honnappa Nagarahalli
2020-05-05 14:48 ` Van Haaren, Harry
2020-05-02 0:02 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 6/6] service: relax barriers with C11 atomics Honnappa Nagarahalli
2020-05-05 14:48 ` Van Haaren, Harry
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2020-05-05 21:17 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 1/6] service: fix race condition for MT unsafe service Honnappa Nagarahalli
2020-05-05 21:17 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 2/6] service: fix identification of service running on other lcore Honnappa Nagarahalli
2020-05-05 21:17 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 3/6] service: remove rte prefix from static functions Honnappa Nagarahalli
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2020-05-06 10:20 ` Phil Yang
2020-05-05 21:17 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 6/6] service: relax barriers with C11 atomics Honnappa Nagarahalli
2020-05-06 10:24 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 0/6] use c11 atomics for service core lib Phil Yang
2020-05-06 10:24 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 1/6] service: fix race condition for MT unsafe service Phil Yang
2020-05-06 10:24 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 2/6] service: fix identification of service running on other lcore Phil Yang
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2020-05-06 10:24 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 4/6] service: remove redundant code Phil Yang
2020-05-06 10:24 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 5/6] service: optimize with c11 atomics Phil Yang
2020-05-06 10:24 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 6/6] service: relax barriers with C11 atomics Phil Yang
2020-05-06 15:27 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 0/6] use c11 atomics for service core lib Phil Yang
2020-05-06 15:27 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 1/6] service: fix race condition for MT unsafe service Phil Yang
2020-05-06 15:28 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 2/6] service: fix identification of service running on other lcore Phil Yang
2020-05-06 15:28 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 3/6] service: remove rte prefix from static functions Phil Yang
2020-05-06 15:28 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 4/6] service: remove redundant code Phil Yang
2020-05-06 15:28 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 5/6] service: optimize with c11 atomics Phil Yang
2020-05-06 15:28 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 6/6] service: relax barriers with C11 atomics Phil Yang
2020-05-11 11:21 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 0/6] use c11 atomics for service core lib David Marchand
2020-03-17 1:17 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 08/12] service: remove redundant code Phil Yang
2020-04-03 11:58 ` Van Haaren, Harry
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2020-04-08 10:15 ` Phil Yang
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2020-04-03 11:58 ` Van Haaren, Harry
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2020-04-18 6:21 ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
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2020-04-03 11:58 ` Van Haaren, Harry
2020-04-05 2:43 ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2020-03-17 1:17 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 11/12] service: optimize with c11 one-way barrier Phil Yang
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2020-05-26 9:01 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 2/4] maintainers: claim maintainers of c11 atomics code Phil Yang
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2020-06-29 4:38 ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2020-06-29 5:38 ` Phil Yang
2020-05-26 9:01 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 4/4] eal/atomic: add wrapper for c11 atomic thread fence Phil Yang
2020-06-29 4:40 ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2020-06-29 10:09 ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2020-06-29 14:37 ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2020-06-29 10:13 ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2020-07-07 9:50 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 0/4] generic rte atomic APIs deprecate proposal Phil Yang
2020-07-07 9:50 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 1/4] doc: add generic atomic deprecation section Phil Yang
2020-07-10 16:55 ` Thomas Monjalon
2020-07-10 23:47 ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2020-07-07 9:50 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 2/4] maintainers: claim maintainers of C11 atomics Phil Yang
2020-07-10 17:45 ` Thomas Monjalon
2020-07-10 23:41 ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2020-07-13 6:26 ` Phil Yang
2020-07-07 9:50 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 3/4] devtools: prevent use of rte atomic APIs in future patches Phil Yang
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