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* [DPDK] heap memory fragmentation issue
@ 2023-04-12  8:44 wuchangsheng (C)
  2023-04-18 21:35 ` Dmitry Kozlyuk
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: wuchangsheng (C) @ 2023-04-12  8:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: anatoly.burakov
  Cc: dev, jiangheng (G), Yanan (Euler), Suweifeng (Weifeng, EulerOS)

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Hello:

    When using rte_malloc and rte_free to request and release memory repeatedly, the usage of large pages gradually increases.

Checking the relevant source code shows that memory requests and releases are started from the head of the freelist chain list of the heap. Memory fragmentation seems to result from this, which is considered because the memory recently released may be in the cache, and requesting this memory at the time of allocation may achieve higher performance?

How does the community consider the heap's memory fragmentation issue? Is there a future plan for memory fragmentation optimization?

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* Re: [DPDK] heap memory fragmentation issue
  2023-04-12  8:44 [DPDK] heap memory fragmentation issue wuchangsheng (C)
@ 2023-04-18 21:35 ` Dmitry Kozlyuk
  2023-04-18 22:43   ` Stephen Hemminger
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Dmitry Kozlyuk @ 2023-04-18 21:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: wuchangsheng (C)
  Cc: anatoly.burakov, dev, jiangheng (G), Yanan (Euler),
	Suweifeng (Weifeng, EulerOS)

Hi,

2023-04-12 08:44 (UTC+0000), wuchangsheng (C):
> When using rte_malloc and rte_free to request and release memory repeatedly, the usage of large pages gradually increases.

Do you have a repro?

> Checking the relevant source code shows that memory requests and releases
> are started from the head of the freelist chain list of the heap.
> Memory fragmentation seems to result from this, which is considered because
> the memory recently released may be in the cache, and requesting this
> memory at the time of allocation may achieve higher performance?

Could you please elaborate?
DPDK uses "first fit" algorithm to select the free block,
is that what you mean by "memory fragmentation seems to result from this"?

> How does the community consider the heap's memory fragmentation issue? Is
> there a future plan for memory fragmentation optimization?

From my experience with a production app, fragmentation is indeed an issue.

Unfortunately, fragmentation often happens within a single 1G hugepage.
It is impossible to coalesce free fragments of a hugepage
into a contiguous block, like an OS would do with disjoint pages.

Often the application can move its objects in memory, though.
DPDK could provide means for applications to defragment memory this way.
I don't think DPDK should drive the defragmentation process,
because only the application knows when, which, and how much memory
it is reasonable to move around.
DPDK could provide facilities to analyze memory fragmentation degree
(now possible by tracking objects and inspecting memseg, but hard)
and to allocate memory at the desired range (API missing).

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* Re: [DPDK] heap memory fragmentation issue
  2023-04-18 21:35 ` Dmitry Kozlyuk
@ 2023-04-18 22:43   ` Stephen Hemminger
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: Stephen Hemminger @ 2023-04-18 22:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Dmitry Kozlyuk
  Cc: wuchangsheng (C), anatoly.burakov, dev, jiangheng (G),
	Yanan (Euler), Suweifeng (Weifeng, EulerOS)

On Wed, 19 Apr 2023 00:35:31 +0300
Dmitry Kozlyuk <dmitry.kozliuk@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> 2023-04-12 08:44 (UTC+0000), wuchangsheng (C):
> > When using rte_malloc and rte_free to request and release memory repeatedly, the usage of large pages gradually increases.  
> 
> Do you have a repro?
> 
> > Checking the relevant source code shows that memory requests and releases
> > are started from the head of the freelist chain list of the heap.
> > Memory fragmentation seems to result from this, which is considered because
> > the memory recently released may be in the cache, and requesting this
> > memory at the time of allocation may achieve higher performance?  
> 
> Could you please elaborate?
> DPDK uses "first fit" algorithm to select the free block,
> is that what you mean by "memory fragmentation seems to result from this"?
> 
> > How does the community consider the heap's memory fragmentation issue? Is
> > there a future plan for memory fragmentation optimization?  
> 
> From my experience with a production app, fragmentation is indeed an issue.

The problem is that simple first-fit is often not good enough.
Memory allocation algorithms are much researched area of operating system design.
You will find lots of lectures online like https://www.scs.stanford.edu/15au-cs140/notes/mem_allocation.pdf

If interested, some other malloc libraries:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C_dynamic_memory_allocation

Glibc https://sourceware.org/glibc/wiki/MallocInternals
Dimalloc
	Small (<256) use simple best fit power of two with splitting
	Medium bitwise trie
	Large use mmap

JeMalloc https://jemalloc.net/
	What FreeBSD uses, avoids fragmentation

Mimalloc https://microsoft.github.io/mimalloc/
	Uses free list sharding (ie free list per page)
	https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/research/uploads/prod/2019/06/mimalloc-tr-v1.pdf

If someone wants to go deeper, then looking into some combination
of these would be good. Some of these already are huge page aware
so probably DPDK could stop reinventing this.



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* [DPDK] heap memory fragmentation issue
@ 2023-04-18  2:48 wuchangsheng (C)
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: wuchangsheng (C) @ 2023-04-18  2:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: anatoly.burakov
  Cc: dev, jiangheng (G), Yanan (Euler), Suweifeng (Weifeng, EulerOS)

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ping



Hello:

  When using rte_malloc and rte_free to request and release memory repeatedly, the usage of large pages gradually increases.

Checking the relevant source code shows that memory requests and releases are started from the head of the freelist chain list of the heap. Memory fragmentation seems to result from this, which is considered because the memory recently released may be in the cache, and requesting this memory at the time of allocation may achieve higher performance?

How does the community consider the heap's memory fragmentation issue? Is there a future plan for memory fragmentation optimization?

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