From: "Ananyev, Konstantin" <konstantin.ananyev@intel.com>
To: Jerin Jacob <jerin.jacob@caviumnetworks.com>,
"Lu, Wenzhuo" <wenzhuo.lu@intel.com>
Cc: Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>,
"dev@dpdk.org" <dev@dpdk.org>,
"Richardson, Bruce" <bruce.richardson@intel.com>,
"Chen, Jing D" <jing.d.chen@intel.com>,
"Liang, Cunming" <cunming.liang@intel.com>,
"Wu, Jingjing" <jingjing.wu@intel.com>,
"Zhang, Helin" <helin.zhang@intel.com>,
"thomas.monjalon@6wind.com" <thomas.monjalon@6wind.com>
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 1/4] lib/librte_ether: support device reset
Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 09:26:12 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <2601191342CEEE43887BDE71AB97725836B73FD0@irsmsx105.ger.corp.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160621085531.GA31880@localhost.localdomain>
Hi Jerin,
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jerin Jacob [mailto:jerin.jacob@caviumnetworks.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2016 9:56 AM
> To: Lu, Wenzhuo
> Cc: Stephen Hemminger; dev@dpdk.org; Ananyev, Konstantin; Richardson, Bruce; Chen, Jing D; Liang, Cunming; Wu, Jingjing; Zhang,
> Helin; thomas.monjalon@6wind.com
> Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 1/4] lib/librte_ether: support device reset
>
> On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 08:24:36AM +0000, Lu, Wenzhuo wrote:
> > Hi Jerin,
>
> Hi Wenzhuo,
>
> > > > > > > On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 02:24:27PM +0800, Wenzhuo Lu wrote:
> > > > > > > > Add an API to reset the device.
> > > > > > > > It's for VF device in this scenario, kernel PF + DPDK VF.
> > > > > > > > When the PF port down->up, APP should call this API to reset
> > > > > > > > VF port. Most likely, APP should call it in its management
> > > > > > > > thread and guarantee the thread safe. It means APP should stop
> > > > > > > > the rx/tx and the device, then reset the device, then recover
> > > > > > > > the device and rx/tx.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Following is _a_ use-case for Device reset. But may be not be
> > > > > > > _the_ use case. IMO, We need to first say expected behavior of
> > > > > > > this API and add a use-case later.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Other use-case would be, PCIe VF with functional level reset for
> > > > > > > SRIOV migration.
> > > > > > > Are we on same page?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In my experience with Linux devices, this is normally handled by
> > > > > > the device driver in the start routine. Since any use case which
> > > > > > needs this is going to do a stop/reset/start sequence, why not
> > > > > > just have the VF device driver do this in the start routine?.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Adding yet another API and state transistion if not necessary
> > > > > > increases the complexity and required test cases for all devices.
> > > > >
> > > > > I agree with Stephen here.I think if application needs to call start
> > > > > after the device reset then we could add this logic in start itself
> > > > > rather exposing a yet another API
> > > > Do you mean changing the device_start to include all these actions, stop
> > > device -> stop queue -> re-setup queue -> start queue -> start device ?
> > >
> > > What was the expected API call sequence when you were introduced this API?
> > >
> > > Point was to have implicit device reset in the API call sequence(Wherever make
> > > sense for specific PMD)
> > I think the API call sequence depends on the implementation of the APP. Let's say if there's not this reset API, APP can use this API
> call sequence to handle the PF link down/up event, rte_eth_dev_close -> rte_eth_rx_queue_setup -> rte_eth_tx_queue_setup ->
> rte_eth_dev_start.
> > Actually our purpose is to use this reset API instead of the API call sequence. You can see the reset API is not necessary. The benefit
> is to save the code for APP.
>
> Then I am bit confused with original commit log description.
> |
> |It means APP should stop the rx/tx and the device, then reset the
> |device, then recover the device and rx/tx.
> |
> I was under impression that it a low level reset API for this device? Is
> n't it?
>
> The other issue is generalized outlook of the API, Certain PMD will not
> have PF link down/up event? Link down/up and only connected to VF and PF
> only for configuration.
>
> How about fixing it more transparently in PMD driver itself as
> PMD driver knows the PF link up/down event, Is it possible to
> recover the VF on that event if its only matter of resetting it?
I think we already went through that discussion on the list.
Unfortunately with current dpdk design it is hardly possible.
To achieve that we need to introduce some sort of synchronisation
between IO and control APIs (locking or so).
Actually I am not sure why having a special reset function will be a problem.
Yes, it would exist only for VFs, for PF it could be left unimplemented.
Though it definitely seems more convenient from user point of view,
they would know: to handle VF reset event, they just need to call that
particular function, not to re-implement their own.
Konstantin
>
> Jerin
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-06-21 9:26 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-06-06 5:40 [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 0/8] support reset of VF link Wenzhuo Lu
2016-06-06 5:40 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 1/8] lib/librte_ether: support device reset Wenzhuo Lu
2016-06-06 5:40 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 2/8] lib/librte_ether: defind RX/TX lock mode Wenzhuo Lu
2016-06-08 2:15 ` Stephen Hemminger
2016-06-08 7:34 ` Lu, Wenzhuo
2016-06-09 7:50 ` Olivier Matz
2016-06-12 5:25 ` Lu, Wenzhuo
2016-06-10 18:12 ` Stephen Hemminger
2016-06-12 5:27 ` Lu, Wenzhuo
2016-06-06 5:40 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 3/8] ixgbe: RX/TX with lock on VF Wenzhuo Lu
2016-06-06 5:40 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 4/8] ixgbe: implement device reset " Wenzhuo Lu
2016-06-06 5:40 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 5/8] igb: RX/TX with lock " Wenzhuo Lu
2016-06-06 5:40 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 6/8] igb: implement device reset " Wenzhuo Lu
2016-06-06 5:40 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 7/8] i40e:RX/TX with lock " Wenzhuo Lu
2016-06-06 5:40 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 8/8] i40e: implement device reset " Wenzhuo Lu
2016-06-15 3:03 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 0/4] support reset of VF link Wenzhuo Lu
2016-06-15 3:03 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 1/4] lib/librte_ether: support device reset Wenzhuo Lu
2016-06-16 15:31 ` Bruce Richardson
2016-06-16 15:36 ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-06-15 3:03 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 2/4] ixgbe: implement device reset on VF Wenzhuo Lu
2016-06-15 3:03 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 3/4] igb: " Wenzhuo Lu
2016-06-15 3:03 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 4/4] i40e: " Wenzhuo Lu
2016-06-20 6:24 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 0/4] support reset of VF link Wenzhuo Lu
2016-06-20 6:24 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 1/4] lib/librte_ether: support device reset Wenzhuo Lu
2016-06-20 9:14 ` Jerin Jacob
2016-06-20 16:17 ` Stephen Hemminger
2016-06-21 3:51 ` Jerin Jacob
2016-06-21 6:14 ` Lu, Wenzhuo
2016-06-21 7:37 ` Jerin Jacob
2016-06-21 8:24 ` Lu, Wenzhuo
2016-06-21 8:55 ` Jerin Jacob
2016-06-21 9:26 ` Ananyev, Konstantin [this message]
2016-06-21 10:57 ` Jerin Jacob
2016-06-21 13:10 ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2016-06-21 13:30 ` Jerin Jacob
2016-06-21 14:03 ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2016-06-21 14:29 ` Jerin Jacob
2016-06-22 1:35 ` Lu, Wenzhuo
2016-06-22 2:37 ` Jerin Jacob
2016-06-22 3:32 ` Lu, Wenzhuo
2016-06-22 4:14 ` Jerin Jacob
2016-06-22 5:05 ` Lu, Wenzhuo
2016-06-22 6:10 ` Jerin Jacob
2016-06-22 6:42 ` Lu, Wenzhuo
2016-06-22 7:59 ` Jerin Jacob
2016-06-22 8:17 ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-06-22 8:25 ` Lu, Wenzhuo
2016-06-22 9:18 ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-06-22 11:06 ` Jerin Jacob
2016-06-23 0:45 ` Lu, Wenzhuo
2016-06-23 0:39 ` Lu, Wenzhuo
2016-06-21 0:51 ` Lu, Wenzhuo
2016-06-20 6:24 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 2/4] ixgbe: implement device reset on VF Wenzhuo Lu
2016-06-20 6:24 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 3/4] igb: " Wenzhuo Lu
2016-06-20 6:24 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 4/4] i40e: " Wenzhuo Lu
2016-07-04 15:48 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 0/4] support reset of VF link Luca Boccassi
2016-07-05 0:52 ` Lu, Wenzhuo
2016-07-05 9:52 ` Luca Boccassi
2016-07-06 0:45 ` Lu, Wenzhuo
2016-07-06 16:26 ` Luca Boccassi
[not found] ` <1467822182.32466.34.camel@brocade.com>
2016-07-07 1:09 ` Lu, Wenzhuo
2016-07-07 10:20 ` Luca Boccassi
2016-07-07 13:12 ` Lu, Wenzhuo
2016-07-07 16:19 ` Luca Boccassi
2016-07-08 0:14 ` Lu, Wenzhuo
2016-07-08 17:15 ` Luca Boccassi
2016-07-11 1:32 ` Lu, Wenzhuo
2016-07-11 12:02 ` Luca Boccassi
2016-07-11 15:43 ` Luca Boccassi
2016-07-12 1:19 ` Lu, Wenzhuo
2016-08-26 12:58 ` Luca Boccassi
2016-08-29 1:04 ` Lu, Wenzhuo
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