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From: Jan Blunck <jblunck@infradead.org>
To: Thomas Monjalon <thomas@monjalon.net>
Cc: dev <dev@dpdk.org>, Gaetan Rivet <gaetan.rivet@6wind.com>
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 5/7] bus: add helper to find a bus from a device name
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2017 09:56:30 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CALe+Z03YBc=n+QXP3O4oUunENi30RLdKK4-3BSaDNTpi0YmYAw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2359359.ae4fqFO3lF@xps>

On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 7:03 PM, Thomas Monjalon <thomas@monjalon.net> wrote:
> 27/06/2017 20:55, Jan Blunck:
>> On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 1:30 AM, Gaetan Rivet <gaetan.rivet@6wind.com> wrote:
>> >  /**
>> > + * Find a bus capable of identifying a device.
>> > + *
>> > + * @param str
>> > + *   A device identifier (PCI address, virtual PMD name, ...).
>> > + *
>> > + * @return
>> > + *   A valid bus handle if found.
>> > + *   NULL if no bus is able to parse this device.
>> > + */
>> > +struct rte_bus *rte_bus_from_dev(const char *str);
>>
>> I still don't agree with this. The bus name should be passed
>> explicitly by the user of the API.
>>
>> NAK.
>
> Please explain why you think the bus name should be explicit.
> If the bus is ambiguous, it can be explicited by the user.
>
> I see some good benefits in being tolerant with the bus/device
> representation. It provides a smooth transition to the bus model.
>

We build libraries. The applications we build with the help of those
libraries get notified by the OS about device events. Those devices
are chields of their parent bus. At the time the event is fired the OS
already knows about:

- the bus name (parent)
- the device name (child)
- additional event parameters (environment)

Blame me that I probably spent too much time with Kay Sievers and
GregKH to understand that device naming is easy to get wrong. Just
look at the hyperv device names and how they switched to the UUID
scheme. I don't think that hyperv is the only bus that uses UUID as
device identification. We should not codify a policy of how to deduce
a bus name from a given device name if that is knowledge that is
already present externally. Otherwise I fear this part of the EAL will
be subject to constant churn.

  reply	other threads:[~2017-06-29  7:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 123+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-05-24 15:12 [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 0/9] rte_bus parse API Gaetan Rivet
2017-05-24 15:12 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 1/9] bus: fix bus name registration Gaetan Rivet
2017-05-24 15:12 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 2/9] bus: verify bus name on registration Gaetan Rivet
2017-05-24 15:12 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 3/9] bus: introduce parsing functionality Gaetan Rivet
2017-05-24 15:12 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 4/9] vdev: implement parse bus operation Gaetan Rivet
2017-05-24 15:12 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 5/9] pci: " Gaetan Rivet
2017-05-24 15:12 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 6/9] bus: add helper to find bus from a name Gaetan Rivet
2017-05-24 15:12 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 7/9] bus: add helper to find a bus from a device name Gaetan Rivet
2017-06-07 17:28   ` Jan Blunck
2017-06-07 20:03     ` Gaëtan Rivet
2017-06-08 10:45       ` Jan Blunck
2017-06-08 11:36         ` Gaëtan Rivet
2017-06-08 11:40           ` Jan Blunck
2017-06-08 12:51             ` Gaëtan Rivet
2017-06-10  8:50               ` Jan Blunck
2017-06-12 14:21                 ` Gaëtan Rivet
2017-05-24 15:12 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 8/9] vdev: expose bus name Gaetan Rivet
2017-05-24 15:12 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 9/9] devargs: parse bus info Gaetan Rivet
2017-05-24 16:15 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 0/9] rte_bus parse API Gaetan Rivet
2017-05-24 16:15   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 1/9] bus: fix bus name registration Gaetan Rivet
2017-05-24 16:15   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 2/9] bus: verify bus name on registration Gaetan Rivet
2017-05-24 16:15   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 3/9] bus: introduce parsing functionality Gaetan Rivet
2017-05-24 16:15   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 4/9] vdev: implement parse bus operation Gaetan Rivet
2017-05-24 16:15   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 5/9] pci: " Gaetan Rivet
2017-05-24 16:15   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 6/9] bus: add helper to find bus from a name Gaetan Rivet
2017-05-24 16:15   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 7/9] bus: add helper to find a bus from a device name Gaetan Rivet
2017-05-24 16:15   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 8/9] vdev: expose bus name Gaetan Rivet
2017-05-24 16:15   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 9/9] devargs: parse bus info Gaetan Rivet
2017-06-01 10:08   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 0/9] rte_bus parse API Gaetan Rivet
2017-06-01 10:08     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 1/9] bus: fix bus name registration Gaetan Rivet
2017-06-01 10:08     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 2/9] bus: verify bus name on registration Gaetan Rivet
2017-06-01 10:08     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 3/9] bus: introduce parsing functionality Gaetan Rivet
2017-06-01 10:08     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 4/9] vdev: implement parse bus operation Gaetan Rivet
2017-06-01 10:08     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 5/9] pci: " Gaetan Rivet
2017-06-01 10:08     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 6/9] bus: add helper to find bus from a name Gaetan Rivet
2017-06-01 10:08     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 7/9] bus: add helper to find a bus from a device name Gaetan Rivet
2017-06-01 10:08     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 8/9] vdev: expose bus name Gaetan Rivet
2017-06-01 10:08     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 9/9] devargs: parse bus info Gaetan Rivet
2017-06-07 23:56     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 0/9] rte_bus parse API Gaetan Rivet
2017-06-07 23:56       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 1/9] bus: fix bus name registration Gaetan Rivet
2017-06-07 23:56       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 2/9] bus: verify bus name on registration Gaetan Rivet
2017-06-07 23:56       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 3/9] bus: introduce parsing functionality Gaetan Rivet
2017-06-07 23:56       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 4/9] vdev: implement parse bus operation Gaetan Rivet
2017-06-07 23:56       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 5/9] pci: " Gaetan Rivet
2017-06-07 23:56       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 6/9] bus: add helper to find a bus from a bus name Gaetan Rivet
2017-06-07 23:56       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 7/9] bus: add helper to find a bus from a device name Gaetan Rivet
2017-06-07 23:56       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 8/9] vdev: expose bus name Gaetan Rivet
2017-06-07 23:56       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 9/9] devargs: parse bus info Gaetan Rivet
2017-06-20 23:30       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 0/7] rte_bus parse API Gaetan Rivet
2017-06-20 23:30         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 1/7] bus: fix bus name registration Gaetan Rivet
2017-06-27 15:53           ` Bruce Richardson
2017-06-27 19:19           ` Jan Blunck
2017-07-04  1:05             ` Gaëtan Rivet
2017-06-20 23:30         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 2/7] bus: introduce parsing functionality Gaetan Rivet
2017-06-27 15:54           ` Bruce Richardson
2017-06-27 19:26           ` Jan Blunck
2017-07-04  1:35             ` Gaëtan Rivet
2017-06-20 23:30         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 3/7] vdev: implement parse bus operation Gaetan Rivet
2017-06-27 15:59           ` Bruce Richardson
2017-06-20 23:30         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 4/7] pci: " Gaetan Rivet
2017-06-27 16:18           ` Bruce Richardson
2017-06-20 23:30         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 5/7] bus: add helper to find a bus from a device name Gaetan Rivet
2017-06-27 16:26           ` Bruce Richardson
2017-06-27 18:55           ` Jan Blunck
2017-06-28 17:03             ` Thomas Monjalon
2017-06-29  7:56               ` Jan Blunck [this message]
2017-06-29  8:21                 ` Thomas Monjalon
2017-06-29 10:23                 ` Gaëtan Rivet
2017-06-29 10:30                   ` Richardson, Bruce
2017-06-20 23:30         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 6/7] vdev: expose bus name Gaetan Rivet
2017-06-20 23:30         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 7/7] devargs: parse bus info Gaetan Rivet
2017-06-27 16:01         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 0/7] rte_bus parse API Bruce Richardson
2017-07-04  0:58         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 0/6] " Gaetan Rivet
2017-07-04  0:58           ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 1/6] bus: fix bus name registration Gaetan Rivet
2017-07-04 21:43             ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH] bus: fix driver registration Thomas Monjalon
2017-07-05  5:47               ` Shreyansh Jain
2017-07-05  6:01                 ` Shreyansh Jain
2017-07-04  0:58           ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 2/6] bus: introduce parsing functionality Gaetan Rivet
2017-07-04  0:58           ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 3/6] vdev: implement parse bus operation Gaetan Rivet
2017-07-04  0:58           ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 4/6] pci: " Gaetan Rivet
2017-07-04  0:58           ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 5/6] bus: add helper to find a bus from a device name Gaetan Rivet
2017-07-04 12:28             ` Gaëtan Rivet
2017-07-04  0:58           ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 6/6] devargs: parse bus info Gaetan Rivet
2017-07-04 23:55           ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v7 0/6] rte_bus parse API Gaetan Rivet
2017-07-04 23:55             ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v7 1/6] bus: fix driver registration Gaetan Rivet
2017-07-05 13:03               ` Shreyansh Jain
2017-07-06  6:05               ` santosh
2017-07-04 23:55             ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v7 2/6] bus: introduce parsing functionality Gaetan Rivet
2017-07-05 13:04               ` Shreyansh Jain
2017-07-06  9:19               ` santosh
2017-07-06 12:30                 ` Gaëtan Rivet
2017-07-06 13:12                   ` santosh
2017-07-06 13:30                     ` Gaëtan Rivet
2017-07-04 23:55             ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v7 3/6] vdev: implement parse bus operation Gaetan Rivet
2017-07-05 13:16               ` Shreyansh Jain
2017-07-06  9:35               ` santosh
2017-07-04 23:55             ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v7 4/6] pci: " Gaetan Rivet
2017-07-04 23:55             ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v7 5/6] bus: add helper to find a bus from a device name Gaetan Rivet
2017-07-05 13:35               ` Shreyansh Jain
2017-07-05 13:45                 ` Gaëtan Rivet
2017-07-05 14:12                   ` Shreyansh Jain
2017-07-06 10:10                   ` Thomas Monjalon
2017-07-06 11:37                     ` Gaëtan Rivet
2017-07-04 23:55             ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v7 6/6] devargs: parse bus info Gaetan Rivet
2017-07-05 18:03               ` Stephen Hemminger
2017-07-06  9:07               ` Shreyansh Jain
2017-07-06 10:00                 ` Gaëtan Rivet
2017-07-06 13:17                   ` Shreyansh Jain
2017-07-07  0:03             ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v8 0/6] rte_bus parse API Gaetan Rivet
2017-07-07  0:03               ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v8 1/6] bus: fix driver registration Gaetan Rivet
2017-07-07  0:03               ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v8 2/6] bus: introduce parsing functionality Gaetan Rivet
2017-07-07  0:03               ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v8 3/6] vdev: implement parse bus operation Gaetan Rivet
2017-07-07  0:03               ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v8 4/6] pci: " Gaetan Rivet
2017-07-07  0:03               ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v8 5/6] bus: add helper to find a bus from a device name Gaetan Rivet
2017-07-07  0:03               ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v8 6/6] devargs: parse bus info Gaetan Rivet
2017-07-07  0:45                 ` Stephen Hemminger
2017-07-07  8:31                   ` Gaëtan Rivet
2017-07-08 20:31                     ` Thomas Monjalon
2017-07-08 20:30               ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v8 0/6] rte_bus parse API Thomas Monjalon
2017-06-07 17:22 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 0/9] " Jan Blunck
2017-06-07 19:55   ` Gaëtan Rivet
2017-06-08 11:38     ` Jan Blunck
2017-06-08 13:04       ` Gaëtan Rivet

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