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From: "Liu, Changpeng" <changpeng.liu@intel.com>
To: Maxime Coquelin <maxime.coquelin@redhat.com>,
	"dev@dpdk.org" <dev@dpdk.org>
Cc: "Xia, Chenbo" <chenbo.xia@intel.com>
Subject: RE: [PATCH] vhost: use try_lock in rte_vhost_vring_call
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2022 09:52:15 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <PH0PR11MB509346AFE740B394C6CB81B8EE4F9@PH0PR11MB5093.namprd11.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <fcb3a9b8-f3d9-4f4c-ce94-a6d589220813@redhat.com>



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Maxime Coquelin <maxime.coquelin@redhat.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2022 5:41 PM
> To: Liu, Changpeng <changpeng.liu@intel.com>; dev@dpdk.org
> Cc: Xia, Chenbo <chenbo.xia@intel.com>
> Subject: Re: [PATCH] vhost: use try_lock in rte_vhost_vring_call
> 
> 
> 
> On 9/20/22 10:43, Liu, Changpeng wrote:
> >
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Maxime Coquelin <maxime.coquelin@redhat.com>
> >> Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2022 4:13 PM
> >> To: Liu, Changpeng <changpeng.liu@intel.com>; dev@dpdk.org
> >> Cc: Xia, Chenbo <chenbo.xia@intel.com>
> >> Subject: Re: [PATCH] vhost: use try_lock in rte_vhost_vring_call
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 9/20/22 09:45, Liu, Changpeng wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: Maxime Coquelin <maxime.coquelin@redhat.com>
> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2022 3:35 PM
> >>>> To: Liu, Changpeng <changpeng.liu@intel.com>; dev@dpdk.org
> >>>> Cc: Xia, Chenbo <chenbo.xia@intel.com>
> >>>> Subject: Re: [PATCH] vhost: use try_lock in rte_vhost_vring_call
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On 9/20/22 09:29, Liu, Changpeng wrote:
> >>>>> Hi Maxime,
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>> From: Maxime Coquelin <maxime.coquelin@redhat.com>
> >>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2022 3:19 PM
> >>>>>> To: Liu, Changpeng <changpeng.liu@intel.com>; dev@dpdk.org
> >>>>>> Cc: Xia, Chenbo <chenbo.xia@intel.com>
> >>>>>> Subject: Re: [PATCH] vhost: use try_lock in rte_vhost_vring_call
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On 9/6/22 04:22, Changpeng Liu wrote:
> >>>>>>> Note that this function is in data path, so the thread context
> >>>>>>> may not same as socket messages processing context, by using
> >>>>>>> try_lock here, users can have another try in case of VQ's access
> >>>>>>> lock is held by `vhost-events` thread.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Signed-off-by: Changpeng Liu <changpeng.liu@intel.com>
> >>>>>>> ---
> >>>>>>>      lib/vhost/vhost.c | 6 +++++-
> >>>>>>>      1 file changed, 5 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> diff --git a/lib/vhost/vhost.c b/lib/vhost/vhost.c
> >>>>>>> index 60cb05a0ff..072d2acb7b 100644
> >>>>>>> --- a/lib/vhost/vhost.c
> >>>>>>> +++ b/lib/vhost/vhost.c
> >>>>>>> @@ -1329,7 +1329,11 @@ rte_vhost_vring_call(int vid, uint16_t
> vring_idx)
> >>>>>>>      	if (!vq)
> >>>>>>>      		return -1;
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> -	rte_spinlock_lock(&vq->access_lock);
> >>>>>>> +	if (!rte_spinlock_trylock(&vq->access_lock)) {
> >>>>>>> +		VHOST_LOG_CONFIG(dev->ifname, DEBUG,
> >>>>>>> +			"failed to kick guest, virtqueue busy.\n");
> >>>>>>> +		return -1;
> >>>>>>> +	}
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>      	if (vq_is_packed(dev))
> >>>>>>>      		vhost_vring_call_packed(dev, vq);
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I think that's problematic, because it will break other applications
> >>>>>> that currently rely on the API to block until the call is done.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Just some internal DPDK usage of this API:
> >>>>>> ./drivers/vdpa/ifc/ifcvf_vdpa.c:871:	rte_vhost_vring_call(internal->vid,
> >>>>>> qid);
> >>>>>> ./examples/vhost/virtio_net.c:236:	rte_vhost_vring_call(dev->vid,
> >> queue_id);
> >>>>>> ./examples/vhost/virtio_net.c:446:	rte_vhost_vring_call(dev->vid,
> >> queue_id);
> >>>>>> ./examples/vhost_blk/vhost_blk.c:99:
> >>>>>> rte_vhost_vring_call(task->ctrlr->vid, vq->id);
> >>>>>> ./examples/vhost_blk/vhost_blk.c:134:
> >>>>>> rte_vhost_vring_call(task->ctrlr->vid, vq->id);
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> This change will break all the above uses.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> And that's not counting external projects.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> ou should better introduce a new API that does not block.
> >>>>> Could you add a new API to do this?
> >>>>    >
> >>>>> I think we can use the new API in SPDK as a workaround, note that SPDK
> >> project
> >>>> is blocked for
> >>>>> a while which can't be used with DPDK 22.05 or newer.
> >>>>
> >>>> DPDK v22.05?
> >>>> What is the commit introducing the regression?
> >>> Here is the commit introducing this issue
> >>> c5736998305d ("vhost: fix missing virtqueue lock protection")
> >>> Bugzilla ID: 1015
> >>
> >> Ok, it cannot be reverted, as it prevents some undefined
> >> behaviors/crashes.
> >>
> >>>>
> >>>> Note that if we introduce a new API, it won't be backported to stable
> >>>> branches.
> >>> I understand, but do we have better idea in short time? we're planning
> >>> to release SPDK 22.09 recently.
> >>
> >> You can have another thread that sends the call?
> > We already use two threads to do this. Here is the example for existing code in
> SPDK:
> >
> > DPDK vhost-events thread                        SPDK thread
> >
> >      SET_VRING_KICK VQ1       ---->            Start polling VQ1
> >      Reply to DPDK                    <----              Done
> >      SET_VRING_KICK VQ2       ---->            thread is blocked on VQ's access lock,
> SPDK thread can't provide reply message
> >
> > For example, we can just return for  SET_VRING_KICK VQ2 message without
> checking SPDK thread, but this leave
> > uncertain replies to VM.
> 
> I'm sorry but you will have to find a workaround while v22.11 is out and
> you can consume it. We can neither backport new API nor we can break all
> the other applications not handling locking failure.
By processing vhost-user message in asynchronous way in SPDK can be a
workaround now, we can backport the workaround to SPDK earlier version
so that it can work with distro DPDK releases.
> 
> Regarding the new API for v22.11, I should be named something like
> rte_vhost_vring_call_nonblock(), and ideally should return some like
> -EAGAIN instead of -1 o that the applications can distinguish between a
> real failure and a need for retry.
Agreed, then we can switch to the new API finally.
> 
> Regards,
> Maxime
> 
> >>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> Vhost-blk and scsi devices are not same with vhost-net, we need to cover
> >>>> SeaBIOS and VM
> >>>>> cases, so we need to start processing vrings after 1 vring is ready.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>> Maxime
> >>>>>
> >>>
> >


  reply	other threads:[~2022-09-21  9:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-09-06  2:22 Changpeng Liu
2022-09-06 21:15 ` Stephen Hemminger
2022-09-07  0:40   ` Liu, Changpeng
2022-09-20  7:12     ` Maxime Coquelin
2022-09-20  2:24 ` Xia, Chenbo
2022-09-20  2:34   ` Liu, Changpeng
2022-09-20  2:53     ` Xia, Chenbo
2022-09-20  3:00       ` Liu, Changpeng
2022-09-20  7:23       ` Maxime Coquelin
2022-09-20  7:30         ` Maxime Coquelin
2022-09-20  7:19 ` Maxime Coquelin
2022-09-20  7:29   ` Liu, Changpeng
2022-09-20  7:34     ` Maxime Coquelin
2022-09-20  7:45       ` Liu, Changpeng
2022-09-20  8:12         ` Maxime Coquelin
2022-09-20  8:43           ` Liu, Changpeng
2022-09-21  9:41             ` Maxime Coquelin
2022-09-21  9:52               ` Liu, Changpeng [this message]
2022-10-11 11:56                 ` Maxime Coquelin
2022-10-12  6:40 ` [PATCH v2] vhost: add new `rte_vhost_vring_call_nonblock` API Changpeng Liu
2022-10-13  7:56   ` Maxime Coquelin
2022-10-17  6:46   ` Xia, Chenbo
2022-10-17  7:17     ` Liu, Changpeng
2022-10-17  7:14   ` [PATCH v3] " Changpeng Liu
2022-10-17  7:39     ` Xia, Chenbo
2022-10-17  7:50       ` Liu, Changpeng
2022-10-17  7:48     ` [PATCH v4] " Changpeng Liu
2022-10-19  5:27       ` Xia, Chenbo
2022-10-26  9:24       ` Xia, Chenbo

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