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From: Bruce Richardson <bruce.richardson@intel.com>
To: David Marchand <david.marchand@redhat.com>
Cc: <dev@dpdk.org>, <rjarry@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 0/7] document and simplify use of cmdline
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2023 18:02:14 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZS6+FgejeyND+oNB@bricha3-MOBL.ger.corp.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJFAV8zxevRgdsUGjAkEZn790CfhdZavoTGWBpRUYm_nE_E7AA@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Oct 17, 2023 at 06:23:47PM +0200, David Marchand wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 17, 2023 at 10:29 AM Bruce Richardson
> <bruce.richardson@intel.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > - testpmd accepts both "help" and "help <section>" commands.
> > > But the cmdline library does not provide a way (afair) for specifiying
> > > this "optional" aspect.
> > >
> > > And it can't be expressed with this series current syntax since
> > > generated symbols would conflict if we ask for two "help" commands.
> > >
> > > My quick hack was to introduce a way to select the prefix of the
> > > generated symbols.
> > > There may be a better way, like finding a better discriminant for
> > > naming symbols...
> > > But, on the other hand, the symbols prefix might be something a
> > > developer wants to control (instead of currently hardcoded cmd_
> > > prefix).
> > >
> > > @@ -20,6 +20,12 @@ def process_command(tokens, cfile, comment):
> > >      """Generate the structures and definitions for a single command."""
> > >      name = []
> > >
> > > +    prefix, sep, cmd_name = tokens[0].partition(':')
> > > +    if cmd_name:
> > > +        tokens[0] = cmd_name
> > > +    else:
> > > +        prefix = 'cmd'
> > > +
> > >      if tokens[0].startswith('<'):
> > >          print('Error: each command must start with at least one
> > > literal string', file=sys.stderr)
> > >          sys.exit(1)
> > >
> > > (etc... I am not copying the rest of the diff)
> > >
> > > I then used as:
> > >
> > > cmd_brief:help # help: Show help
> > > help <STRING>section # help: Show help
> > >
> >
> > Interesting. I actually had no plans to even consider moving something like
> > testpmd over. However, this is an interesting one, though I'm not really
> 
> Given the extensive use of the cmdline library in testpmd, it is a
> good way to identify the limits of this series :-).
> 

It is indeed. That was never meant to be the target of this series, rather
it was to make writing new apps simpler. However, if we have a path to
getting there, then I suppose we might as well continue.

> 
> > sure I like it that much as a feature :-) I rather like having unique
> > prefixes for each command. I wasn't actually aware of the testpmd "help
> > <section>" command at all. I will have to look into it.
> 
> Let me propose an alternative hack.
> I mentionned previously that we could have a better namespace /
> discriminant for those symbols, and it seems easier than I thought:
> 
> @@ -25,8 +25,10 @@ def process_command(tokens, cfile, comment):
>          sys.exit(1)
>      for t in tokens:
>          if t.startswith('<'):
> -            break
> -        name.append(t)
> +            t_type, t_name = t[1:].split('>')
> +            name.append(t_name)
> +        else:
> +            name.append(t)
>      name = '_'.join(name)
> 
>      result_struct = []
> 
> With this, any command implementation symbol has the full chain of
> token names as a prefix which will ensure there is no conflict.
> WDYT?
> 

I actually think I like this less than the previous proposal. :-(

The main reason for that is that we would need to decide immediately
whether to go with this or not, as it would break compatibility with what
is already proposed - because the function and struct names would get
longer. The other scheme you proposed had the advantage that it could at
least be adopted later. It also had the advantage that it was largely
invisble except for the non-trivial cases that needed it.


> help # help: Show help
> help <STRING>section # help: Show help
> 
> Results in:
> 
> cmd_help_parsed(void *parsed_result, struct cmdline *cl, void *data);
> struct cmd_help_result {
> static cmdline_parse_token_string_t cmd_help_help_tok =
>     TOKEN_STRING_INITIALIZER(struct cmd_help_result, help, "help");
> static cmdline_parse_inst_t cmd_help = {
>     .f = cmd_help_parsed,
>         (void *)&cmd_help_help_tok,
> 
> And:
> 
> cmd_help_section_parsed(void *parsed_result, struct cmdline *cl, void *data);
> struct cmd_help_section_result {
> static cmdline_parse_token_string_t cmd_help_section_help_tok =
>     TOKEN_STRING_INITIALIZER(struct cmd_help_section_result, help, "help");
> static cmdline_parse_token_string_t cmd_help_section_section_tok =
>     TOKEN_STRING_INITIALIZER(struct cmd_help_section_result, section, NULL);
> static cmdline_parse_inst_t cmd_help_section = {
>     .f = cmd_help_section_parsed,
>         (void *)&cmd_help_section_help_tok,
>         (void *)&cmd_help_section_section_tok,
> 
> 
> >
> > >
> > > - Multi choice fixed strings is something that is often used in
> > > testpmd, like here, in the help <section> command.
> > > Here is my quick hack:
> > >
> > > diff --git a/buildtools/dpdk-cmdline-gen.py b/buildtools/dpdk-cmdline-gen.py
> > > index 3b41fb0493..e8c9e079de 100755
> > > --- a/buildtools/dpdk-cmdline-gen.py
> > > +++ b/buildtools/dpdk-cmdline-gen.py
> > > @@ -35,7 +35,11 @@ def process_command(tokens, cfile, comment):
> > >      for t in tokens:
> > >          if t.startswith('<'):
> > >              t_type, t_name = t[1:].split('>')
> > > -            t_val = 'NULL'
> > > +            if len(t_type.split('(')) == 2:
> > > +                t_type, t_val = t_type.split('(')
> > > +                t_val = '"' + t_val.split(')')[0] + '"'
> > > +            else:
> > > +                t_val = 'NULL'
> > >          else:
> > >              t_type = 'STRING'
> > >              t_name = t
> > > @@ -113,7 +117,7 @@ def process_commands(infile, hfile, cfile, ctxname):
> > >              continue
> > >          if '#' not in line:
> > >              line = line + '#'  # ensure split always works, even if
> > > no help text
> > > -        tokens, comment = line.split('#', 1)
> > > +        tokens, comment = line.rsplit('#', 1)
> > >          instances.append(process_command(tokens.strip().split(),
> > > cfile, comment.strip()))
> > >
> > >      print(f'static __rte_used cmdline_parse_ctx_t {ctxname}[] = {{')
> > >
> > >
> > > Which translates as:
> > > cmd_brief:help # help: Show help
> > > help <STRING(all#control#display#config#ports)>section # help: Show help
> > >
> >
> > +1
> > I was actualy thinking that adding support for multi-choice fixed strings
> > is something we should add. One thought that I had was that "#" is not a
> > particularly good choice of separator here. While, as you show, it can be
> > made to work; I think - since we are defining our own syntax here - that it
> > would be both simpler for the script, and simpler for the user, to have "|"
> > as the option separator. It should be familiar for everyone as an option
> > separator from regexes, unlike "#" which is more familar for comments.
> >
> > So what about:
> > help <|all|control|display|config|ports|>section
> 
> I don't like using | as it gives the false impression regexp are supported...
> 
I'm not sure it does particularly. The bit that struck me was that if you
look at the help texts for the commands that take multiple options, they
all give the options separated with "|". Therefore, it seems logical to
also use that in command specifiers too.

> 
> >
> > By starting with the separator, we should avoid having to provide the
> > STRING type at all.
> 
> ... and as a consequence, I find <|all confusing, it is like an empty
> value would be acceptable.
> 

I'm ok to drop the initial and terminating |, if that is what the issue is
- or else I'm misunderstanding things. For example:

help <all|control|display|config|ports>section


> 
> About skipping the token type for such lists, I had considered it, but
> I thought other types took an optional list of allowed values...
> Now looking at the cmdline types, it is not the case.
> Maybe I mixed with some other cli framework I played with in the past...
> 
> All of this to say, ok for me to omit the type.
>

Good. However, it only works if we come up with a suitable separator
character to detect to split on. I don't like "#" as separator as it is
used so many places as a comment character. What about bracketed,
comma-separated lists?

help <(all,control,display,config,ports)>section

> 
> >
> > To my previous point on not liking to have a prefix-specifier, the
> > alternative to making testpmd work with the script is to tweak very
> > slightly the "help <section>".
> >
> >   help   # show general help
> >   help on <|all|control|display|config|ports|>section
> >
> > By making the command "help on ports" rather than "help ports" we would
> > avoid the need for the prefix syntax.
> 
> There are other cases where a "chain of command" returns the value of
> a parameter.
> And the same parameter may be set via "chain of command <UINT>value".
> 
Ok, let me think on it a bit....

/Bruce

  reply	other threads:[~2023-10-17 17:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-08-02 17:00 [RFC PATCH 0/1] make cmdline library easier to use Bruce Richardson
2023-08-02 17:00 ` [RFC PATCH 1/1] cmdline/dpdk-cmdline-gen: generate boilerplate for simple cmds Bruce Richardson
2023-08-02 18:05 ` [RFC PATCH 0/1] make cmdline library easier to use Stephen Hemminger
2023-08-03  8:11   ` Bruce Richardson
2023-09-18 13:03 ` [RFC PATCH v2 0/5] use script to simplify use of cmdline lib Bruce Richardson
2023-09-18 13:03   ` [RFC PATCH v2 1/5] buildtools/dpdk-cmdline-gen: generate boilerplate for simple cmds Bruce Richardson
2023-09-18 13:03   ` [RFC PATCH v2 2/5] examples/simple_mp: auto-generate cmdline boilerplate Bruce Richardson
2023-09-18 13:03   ` [RFC PATCH v2 3/5] examples/hotplug_mp: " Bruce Richardson
2023-09-18 13:03   ` [RFC PATCH v2 4/5] buildtools/dpdk-cmdline-gen: add IP address support Bruce Richardson
2023-09-18 13:03   ` [RFC PATCH v2 5/5] examples/bond: auto-generate cmdline boilerplate Bruce Richardson
2023-10-11 13:33 ` [PATCH v3 0/5] document and simplify use of cmdline Bruce Richardson
2023-10-11 13:33   ` [PATCH v3 1/5] doc/prog_guide: new chapter on cmdline library Bruce Richardson
2023-10-11 13:33   ` [PATCH v3 2/5] buildtools: script to generate cmdline boilerplate Bruce Richardson
2023-10-13 12:23     ` Robin Jarry
2023-10-13 12:43       ` Bruce Richardson
2023-10-11 13:33   ` [PATCH v3 3/5] examples/simple_mp: auto-generate " Bruce Richardson
2023-10-11 13:33   ` [PATCH v3 4/5] examples/hotplug_mp: " Bruce Richardson
2023-10-11 13:33   ` [PATCH v3 5/5] examples/bond: " Bruce Richardson
2023-10-12 13:21   ` [PATCH v3 0/5] document and simplify use of cmdline David Marchand
2023-10-12 13:47     ` Bruce Richardson
2023-10-12 13:51     ` Bruce Richardson
2023-10-16 14:06 ` [PATCH v4 0/7] " Bruce Richardson
2023-10-16 14:06   ` [PATCH v4 1/7] doc/prog_guide: new chapter on cmdline library Bruce Richardson
2023-10-16 14:06   ` [PATCH v4 2/7] buildtools: script to generate cmdline boilerplate Bruce Richardson
2023-10-16 14:06   ` [PATCH v4 3/7] ci: allow use of DPDK tools when building examples Bruce Richardson
2023-10-17 12:24     ` Aaron Conole
2023-10-17 12:28       ` Bruce Richardson
2023-10-16 14:06   ` [PATCH v4 4/7] examples/simple_mp: auto-generate cmdline boilerplate Bruce Richardson
2023-10-16 14:06   ` [PATCH v4 5/7] examples/hotplug_mp: " Bruce Richardson
2023-10-16 14:06   ` [PATCH v4 6/7] examples/bond: " Bruce Richardson
2023-10-16 14:06   ` [PATCH v4 7/7] examples/vdpa: " Bruce Richardson
2023-10-17  7:10   ` [PATCH v4 0/7] document and simplify use of cmdline David Marchand
2023-10-17  8:29     ` Bruce Richardson
2023-10-17 12:16       ` Bruce Richardson
2023-10-17 16:23       ` David Marchand
2023-10-17 17:02         ` Bruce Richardson [this message]
2023-10-17 17:08         ` Bruce Richardson
2023-10-18 11:21           ` David Marchand
2023-10-18 11:37             ` Bruce Richardson
2023-10-17 12:13 ` [PATCH v5 0/9] " Bruce Richardson
2023-10-17 12:13   ` [PATCH v5 1/9] doc/prog_guide: new chapter on cmdline library Bruce Richardson
2023-10-17 12:13   ` [PATCH v5 2/9] buildtools: script to generate cmdline boilerplate Bruce Richardson
2023-10-25 13:04     ` Robin Jarry
2023-10-25 13:33       ` Bruce Richardson
2023-10-17 12:13   ` [PATCH v5 3/9] ci: allow use of DPDK tools when building examples Bruce Richardson
2023-10-17 14:08     ` Aaron Conole
2023-10-17 12:13   ` [PATCH v5 4/9] examples/simple_mp: auto-generate cmdline boilerplate Bruce Richardson
2023-10-17 12:13   ` [PATCH v5 5/9] examples/hotplug_mp: " Bruce Richardson
2023-10-17 12:13   ` [PATCH v5 6/9] examples/bond: " Bruce Richardson
2023-10-17 12:13   ` [PATCH v5 7/9] examples/vdpa: " Bruce Richardson
2023-10-17 12:13   ` [PATCH v5 8/9] buildtools/dpdk-cmdline-gen: support option strings Bruce Richardson
2023-10-17 12:13   ` [PATCH v5 9/9] examples/ntb: auto-generate cmdline boilerplate Bruce Richardson
2023-10-23 13:15 ` [PATCH v6 0/9] document and simplify use of cmdline Bruce Richardson
2023-10-23 13:15   ` [PATCH v6 1/9] doc/prog_guide: new chapter on cmdline library Bruce Richardson
2023-10-23 13:15   ` [PATCH v6 2/9] buildtools: script to generate cmdline boilerplate Bruce Richardson
2023-10-23 13:15   ` [PATCH v6 3/9] ci: allow use of DPDK tools when building examples Bruce Richardson
2023-10-23 13:15   ` [PATCH v6 4/9] examples/simple_mp: auto-generate cmdline boilerplate Bruce Richardson
2023-10-23 13:15   ` [PATCH v6 5/9] examples/hotplug_mp: " Bruce Richardson
2023-10-23 13:15   ` [PATCH v6 6/9] examples/bond: " Bruce Richardson
2023-10-23 13:15   ` [PATCH v6 7/9] examples/vdpa: " Bruce Richardson
2023-10-23 13:15   ` [PATCH v6 8/9] buildtools/dpdk-cmdline-gen: support option strings Bruce Richardson
2023-10-23 13:15   ` [PATCH v6 9/9] examples/ntb: auto-generate cmdline boilerplate Bruce Richardson
2023-10-27 11:01 ` [PATCH v7 0/9] document and simplify use of cmdline Bruce Richardson
2023-10-27 11:01   ` [PATCH v7 1/9] doc/prog_guide: new chapter on cmdline library Bruce Richardson
2023-10-27 11:01   ` [PATCH v7 2/9] buildtools: script to generate cmdline boilerplate Bruce Richardson
2023-10-27 11:01   ` [PATCH v7 3/9] ci: allow use of DPDK tools when building examples Bruce Richardson
2023-10-27 11:01   ` [PATCH v7 4/9] examples/simple_mp: auto-generate cmdline boilerplate Bruce Richardson
2023-10-27 11:01   ` [PATCH v7 5/9] examples/hotplug_mp: " Bruce Richardson
2023-10-27 11:01   ` [PATCH v7 6/9] examples/bond: " Bruce Richardson
2023-10-27 11:01   ` [PATCH v7 7/9] examples/vdpa: " Bruce Richardson
2023-10-27 11:01   ` [PATCH v7 8/9] buildtools/dpdk-cmdline-gen: support option strings Bruce Richardson
2023-10-27 11:01   ` [PATCH v7 9/9] examples/ntb: auto-generate cmdline boilerplate Bruce Richardson
2023-11-10 14:16   ` [PATCH v7 0/9] document and simplify use of cmdline David Marchand

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