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From: Jerin Jacob <jerin.jacob@caviumnetworks.com>
To: "Eads, Gage" <gage.eads@intel.com>
Cc: "dev@dpdk.org" <dev@dpdk.org>,
	"Richardson, Bruce" <bruce.richardson@intel.com>,
	"Van Haaren, Harry" <harry.van.haaren@intel.com>,
	"hemant.agrawal@nxp.com" <hemant.agrawal@nxp.com>
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 2/4] eventdev: implement the northbound APIs
Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2016 01:30:23 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20161122200022.GA12168@svelivela-lt.caveonetworks.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9184057F7FC11744A2107296B6B8EB1E01E32F3E@FMSMSX108.amr.corp.intel.com>

On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 07:43:03PM +0000, Eads, Gage wrote:
> >  > >  > > One open issue I noticed is the "typical workflow" description starting in
> >  > >  rte_eventdev.h:204 conflicts with the centralized software PMD that Harry
> >  > >  posted last week. Specifically, that PMD expects a single core to call the
> >  > >  schedule function. We could extend the documentation to account for this
> >  > >  alternative style of scheduler invocation, or discuss ways to make the
> >  software
> >  > >  PMD work with the documented workflow. I prefer the former, but either
> >  way I
> >  > >  think we ought to expose the scheduler's expected usage to the user --
> >  perhaps
> >  > >  through an RTE_EVENT_DEV_CAP flag?
> >  > >  >
> >  > >  > I prefer former too, you can propose the documentation change required
> >  for
> >  > >  software PMD.
> >  >
> >  > Sure, proposal follows. The "typical workflow" isn't the most optimal by
> >  having a conditional in the fast-path, of course, but it demonstrates the idea
> >  simply.
> >  >
> >  > (line 204)
> >  >  * An event driven based application has following typical workflow on
> >  fastpath:
> >  >  * \code{.c}
> >  >  *      while (1) {
> >  >  *
> >  >  *              if (dev_info.event_dev_cap &
> >  >  *                      RTE_EVENT_DEV_CAP_DISTRIBUTED_SCHED)
> >  >  *                      rte_event_schedule(dev_id);
> >  
> >  Yes, I like the idea of RTE_EVENT_DEV_CAP_DISTRIBUTED_SCHED.
> >  It  can be input to application/subsystem to
> >  launch separate core(s) for schedule functions.
> >  But, I think, the "dev_info.event_dev_cap &
> >  RTE_EVENT_DEV_CAP_DISTRIBUTED_SCHED"
> >  check can be moved inside the implementation(to make the better decisions
> >  and
> >  avoiding consuming cycles on HW based schedulers.
> 
> How would this check work? Wouldn't it prevent any core from running the software scheduler in the centralized case?

I guess you may not need RTE_EVENT_DEV_CAP here, instead need flag for device
configure here

#define RTE_EVENT_DEV_CFG_DISTRIBUTED_SCHED (1ULL << 1)

struct rte_event_dev_config config;
config.event_dev_cfg = RTE_EVENT_DEV_CFG_DISTRIBUTED_SCHED;
rte_event_dev_configure(.., &config);

on the driver side on configure,
if (config.event_dev_cfg & RTE_EVENT_DEV_CFG_DISTRIBUTED_SCHED)
	eventdev->schedule = NULL;
else // centralized case
	eventdev->schedule = your_centrized_schedule_function;

Does that work?

> 
> >  
> >  >  *
> >  >  *              rte_event_dequeue(...);
> >  >  *
> >  >  *              (event processing)
> >  >  *
> >  >  *              rte_event_enqueue(...);
> >  >  *      }
> >  >  * \endcode
> >  >  *
> >  >  * The *schedule* operation is intended to do event scheduling, and the
> >  >  * *dequeue* operation returns the scheduled events. An implementation
> >  >  * is free to define the semantics between *schedule* and *dequeue*. For
> >  >  * example, a system based on a hardware scheduler can define its
> >  >  * rte_event_schedule() to be an NOOP, whereas a software scheduler can
> >  use
> >  >  * the *schedule* operation to schedule events. The
> >  >  * RTE_EVENT_DEV_CAP_DISTRIBUTED_SCHED capability flag indicates
> >  whether
> >  >  * rte_event_schedule() should be called by all cores or by a single (typically
> >  >  * dedicated) core.
> >  >
> >  > (line 308)
> >  > #define RTE_EVENT_DEV_CAP_DISTRIBUTED_SCHED (1ULL < 2)
> >  > /**< Event scheduling implementation is distributed and all cores must
> >  execute
> >  >  *  rte_event_schedule(). If unset, the implementation is centralized and
> >  >  *  a single core must execute the schedule operation.
> >  >  *
> >  >  *  \see rte_event_schedule()
> >  >  */
> >  >
> >  > >  >
> >  > >  > On same note, If software PMD based workflow need  a separate core(s)
> >  for
> >  > >  > schedule function then, Can we hide that from API specification and pass
> >  an
> >  > >  > argument to SW pmd to define the scheduling core(s)?
> >  > >  >
> >  > >  > Something like --vdev=eventsw0,schedule_cmask=0x2
> >  >
> >  > An API for controlling the scheduler coremask instead of (or perhaps in
> >  addition to) the vdev argument would be good, to allow runtime control. I can
> >  imagine apps that scale the number of cores based on load, and in doing so
> >  may want to migrate the scheduler to a different core.
> >  
> >  Yes, an API for number of scheduler core looks OK. But if we are going to
> >  have service core approach then we just need to specify at one place as
> >  application will not creating the service functions.
> >  
> >  >
> >  > >
> >  > >  Just a thought,
> >  > >
> >  > >  Perhaps, We could introduce generic "service" cores concept to DPDK to
> >  hide
> >  > >  the
> >  > >  requirement where the implementation needs dedicated core to do certain
> >  > >  work. I guess it would useful for other NPU integration in DPDK.
> >  > >
> >  >
> >  > That's an interesting idea. As you suggested in the other thread, this concept
> >  could be extended to the "producer" code in the example for configurations
> >  where the NIC requires software to feed into the eventdev. And to the other
> >  subsystems mentioned in your original PDF, crypto and timer.
> >  
> >  Yes. Producers should come in service core category. I think, that
> >  enables us to have better NPU integration.(same application code for
> >  NPU vs non NPU)
> >  

  reply	other threads:[~2016-11-22 20:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 109+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-11-18  5:44 [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 0/4] libeventdev API and northbound implementation Jerin Jacob
2016-11-18  5:44 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 1/4] eventdev: introduce event driven programming model Jerin Jacob
2016-11-23 18:39   ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-11-24  1:59     ` Jerin Jacob
2016-11-24 12:26       ` Bruce Richardson
2016-11-24 15:35       ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-11-25  0:23         ` Jerin Jacob
2016-11-25 11:00           ` Bruce Richardson
2016-11-25 13:09             ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-11-26  0:57               ` Jerin Jacob
2016-11-28  9:10                 ` Bruce Richardson
2016-11-26  2:54             ` Jerin Jacob
2016-11-28  9:16               ` Bruce Richardson
2016-11-28 11:30                 ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-11-29  4:01                 ` Jerin Jacob
2016-11-29 10:00                   ` Bruce Richardson
2016-11-25 11:59           ` Van Haaren, Harry
2016-11-25 12:09             ` Richardson, Bruce
2016-11-24 16:24   ` Bruce Richardson
2016-11-24 19:30     ` Jerin Jacob
2016-12-06  3:52   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 0/6] libeventdev API and northbound implementation Jerin Jacob
2016-12-06  3:52     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 1/6] eventdev: introduce event driven programming model Jerin Jacob
2016-12-06 16:51       ` Bruce Richardson
2016-12-07 18:53         ` Jerin Jacob
2016-12-08  9:30           ` Bruce Richardson
2016-12-08 20:41             ` Jerin Jacob
2016-12-09 15:11               ` Bruce Richardson
2016-12-14  6:55                 ` Jerin Jacob
2016-12-07 10:57       ` Van Haaren, Harry
2016-12-08  1:24         ` Jerin Jacob
2016-12-08 11:02           ` Van Haaren, Harry
2016-12-14 13:13             ` Jerin Jacob
2016-12-14 15:15               ` Bruce Richardson
2016-12-15 16:54               ` Van Haaren, Harry
2016-12-07 11:12       ` Bruce Richardson
2016-12-08  1:48         ` Jerin Jacob
2016-12-08  9:57           ` Bruce Richardson
2016-12-14  6:40             ` Jerin Jacob
2016-12-14 15:19       ` Bruce Richardson
2016-12-15 13:39         ` Jerin Jacob
2016-12-06  3:52     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 2/6] eventdev: define southbound driver interface Jerin Jacob
2016-12-06  3:52     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 3/6] eventdev: implement the northbound APIs Jerin Jacob
2016-12-06 17:17       ` Bruce Richardson
2016-12-07 17:02         ` Jerin Jacob
2016-12-08  9:59           ` Bruce Richardson
2016-12-14  6:28             ` Jerin Jacob
2016-12-06  3:52     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 4/6] eventdev: implement PMD registration functions Jerin Jacob
2016-12-06  3:52     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 5/6] event/skeleton: add skeleton eventdev driver Jerin Jacob
2016-12-06  3:52     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 6/6] app/test: unit test case for eventdev APIs Jerin Jacob
2016-12-06 16:46     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 0/6] libeventdev API and northbound implementation Bruce Richardson
2016-12-21  9:25     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 " Jerin Jacob
2016-12-21  9:25       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 1/6] eventdev: introduce event driven programming model Jerin Jacob
2017-01-25 16:32         ` Eads, Gage
2017-01-25 16:36           ` Richardson, Bruce
2017-01-25 16:53             ` Eads, Gage
2017-01-25 22:36               ` Eads, Gage
2017-01-26  9:39                 ` Jerin Jacob
2017-01-26 20:39                   ` Eads, Gage
2017-01-27 10:03                     ` Bruce Richardson
2017-01-30 10:42                     ` Jerin Jacob
2017-02-02 11:18         ` Nipun Gupta
2017-02-02 14:09           ` Jerin Jacob
2017-02-03  6:38             ` Nipun Gupta
2017-02-03 10:58               ` Hemant Agrawal
2017-02-07  4:59                 ` Jerin Jacob
2016-12-21  9:25       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 2/6] eventdev: define southbound driver interface Jerin Jacob
2017-02-02 11:19         ` Nipun Gupta
2017-02-02 11:34           ` Bruce Richardson
2017-02-02 12:53             ` Nipun Gupta
2017-02-02 13:58               ` Bruce Richardson
2017-02-03  5:59                 ` Nipun Gupta
2016-12-21  9:25       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 3/6] eventdev: implement the northbound APIs Jerin Jacob
2017-02-02 11:19         ` Nipun Gupta
2017-02-02 14:32           ` Jerin Jacob
2017-02-03  6:59             ` Nipun Gupta
2016-12-21  9:25       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 4/6] eventdev: implement PMD registration functions Jerin Jacob
2017-02-02 11:20         ` Nipun Gupta
2017-02-05 13:04           ` Jerin Jacob
2016-12-21  9:25       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 5/6] event/skeleton: add skeleton eventdev driver Jerin Jacob
2016-12-21  9:25       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 6/6] app/test: unit test case for eventdev APIs Jerin Jacob
2016-11-18  5:45 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 2/4] eventdev: implement the northbound APIs Jerin Jacob
2016-11-21 17:45   ` Eads, Gage
2016-11-21 19:13     ` Jerin Jacob
2016-11-21 19:31       ` Jerin Jacob
2016-11-22 15:15         ` Eads, Gage
2016-11-22 18:19           ` Jerin Jacob
2016-11-22 19:43             ` Eads, Gage
2016-11-22 20:00               ` Jerin Jacob [this message]
2016-11-22 22:48                 ` Eads, Gage
2016-11-22 23:43                   ` Jerin Jacob
2016-11-28 15:53                     ` Eads, Gage
2016-11-29  2:01                       ` Jerin Jacob
2016-11-29  3:43                       ` Jerin Jacob
2016-11-29  5:46                         ` Eads, Gage
2016-11-23  9:57           ` Bruce Richardson
2016-11-23 19:18   ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-11-25  4:17     ` Jerin Jacob
2016-11-25  9:55       ` Richardson, Bruce
2016-11-25 23:08         ` Jerin Jacob
2016-11-18  5:45 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 3/4] event/skeleton: add skeleton eventdev driver Jerin Jacob
2016-11-18  5:45 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 4/4] app/test: unit test case for eventdev APIs Jerin Jacob
2016-11-18 15:25 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 0/4] libeventdev API and northbound implementation Bruce Richardson
2016-11-18 16:04   ` Bruce Richardson
2016-11-18 19:27     ` Jerin Jacob
2016-11-21  9:40       ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-11-21  9:57         ` Bruce Richardson
2016-11-22  0:11           ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-11-22  2:00       ` Yuanhan Liu
2016-11-22  9:05         ` Shreyansh Jain

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