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From: "Morten Brørup" <mb@smartsharesystems.com>
To: "fengchengwen" <fengchengwen@huawei.com>,
	"Jerin Jacob" <jerinjacobk@gmail.com>
Cc: "Bruce Richardson" <bruce.richardson@intel.com>,
	"Jerin Jacob" <jerinj@marvell.com>,
	"Nipun Gupta" <nipun.gupta@nxp.com>,
	"Thomas Monjalon" <thomas@monjalon.net>,
	"Ferruh Yigit" <ferruh.yigit@intel.com>,
	"dpdk-dev" <dev@dpdk.org>,
	"Hemant Agrawal" <hemant.agrawal@nxp.com>,
	"Maxime Coquelin" <maxime.coquelin@redhat.com>,
	"Honnappa Nagarahalli" <honnappa.nagarahalli@arm.com>,
	"David Marchand" <david.marchand@redhat.com>,
	"Satananda Burla" <sburla@marvell.com>,
	"Prasun Kapoor" <pkapoor@marvell.com>
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] dmadev discussion summary
Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2021 16:57:00 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <98CBD80474FA8B44BF855DF32C47DC35C618D9@smartserver.smartshare.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e19b23b0-294f-5430-eaa3-067a3aadd13d@huawei.com>

> From: dev [mailto:dev-bounces@dpdk.org] On Behalf Of fengchengwen
> Sent: Friday, 2 July 2021 15.45
> 
> On 2021/7/1 23:01, Jerin Jacob wrote:
> >>   [key point]:
> >>       -----------    -----------
> >>       | channel |    | channel |
> >>       -----------    -----------
> >>              \           /
> >>               \         /
> >>                \       /
> >>              ------------
> >>              | HW-queue |
> >>              ------------
> >>                    |
> >>                 --------
> >>                 |rawdev|
> >>                 --------
> >>       1) User could create one channel by init
> context(dpi_dma_queue_ctx_s),
> >>          this interface is not standardized and needs to be
> implemented by
> >>          users.
> >>       2) Different channels can support different transmissions,
> e.g. one for
> >>          inner m2m, and other for inbound copy.
> >>
> >>       Overall, I think the 'channel' is similar the 'virt-queue' of
> dpaa2_qdma.
> >>       The difference is that dpaa2_qdma supports multiple hardware
> queues. The
> >>       'channel' has following
> >
> > If dpaa2_qdma supports more than one HW queue, I think, it is good to
> > have the queue notion
> > in DPDK just like other DPDK device classes. It will be good to have
> > confirmation from dpaa2 folks, @Hemant Agrawal,
> > if there are really more than 1 HW queue in dppa device.
> >
> >
> > IMO, Channel is a better name than a virtual queue. The reason is,
> > virtual queue is more
> > implementation-specific notation. No need to have this in API
> specification.
> >
> 
> In the DPDK framework, many data-plane API names contain queues. e.g.
> eventdev/crypto..
> The concept of virt queues has continuity.

I was also wondering about the name "virtual queue".

Usually, something "virtual" would be an abstraction of something physical, e.g. a software layer on top of something physical.

Back in the days, a "DMA channel" used to mean a DMA engine on a CPU. If a CPU had 2 DMA channels, they could both be set up simultaneously.

The current design has the "dmadev" representing a CPU or other chip, which has one or more "HW-queues" representing DMA channels (of the same type), and then "virt-queue" as a software abstraction on top, for using a DMA channel in different ways through individually configured contexts (virt-queues).

It makes sense to me, although I would consider renaming "HW-queue" to "channel" and perhaps "virt-queue" to "queue".

These names are not important to me. You can keep them or change them; I am happy any way.

But the names used for functions, types and parameters need to be cleaned up and match the names used in the documentation. E.g. rte_dmadev_queue_setup() does not set up a queue, it sets up a virt-queue, so that function name needs to be corrected.

Also, the rte_ prefix is missing in a few places, e.g. struct dma_scatterlist and enum dma_address_type. Obviously not important for this high level discussion based on draft source code, but important for the final implementation.

-Morten

  reply	other threads:[~2021-07-02 14:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-06-15 13:22 [dpdk-dev] [RFC PATCH] dmadev: introduce DMA device library Chengwen Feng
2021-06-15 16:38 ` Bruce Richardson
2021-06-16  7:09   ` Morten Brørup
2021-06-16 10:17     ` fengchengwen
2021-06-16 12:09       ` Morten Brørup
2021-06-16 13:06       ` Bruce Richardson
2021-06-16 14:37       ` Jerin Jacob
2021-06-17  9:15         ` Bruce Richardson
2021-06-18  5:52           ` Jerin Jacob
2021-06-18  9:41             ` fengchengwen
2021-06-22 17:25               ` Jerin Jacob
2021-06-23  3:30                 ` fengchengwen
2021-06-23  7:21                   ` Jerin Jacob
2021-06-23  9:37                     ` Bruce Richardson
2021-06-23 11:40                       ` Jerin Jacob
2021-06-23 14:19                         ` Bruce Richardson
2021-06-24  6:49                           ` Jerin Jacob
2021-06-23  9:41                 ` Bruce Richardson
2021-06-23 10:10                   ` Morten Brørup
2021-06-23 11:46                   ` Jerin Jacob
2021-06-23 14:22                     ` Bruce Richardson
2021-06-18  9:55             ` Bruce Richardson
2021-06-22 17:31               ` Jerin Jacob
2021-06-22 19:17                 ` Bruce Richardson
2021-06-23  7:00                   ` Jerin Jacob
2021-06-16  9:41   ` fengchengwen
2021-06-16 17:31     ` Bruce Richardson
2021-06-16 18:08       ` Jerin Jacob
2021-06-16 19:13         ` Bruce Richardson
2021-06-17  7:42           ` Jerin Jacob
2021-06-17  8:00             ` Bruce Richardson
2021-06-18  5:16               ` Jerin Jacob
2021-06-18 10:03                 ` Bruce Richardson
2021-06-22 17:36                   ` Jerin Jacob
2021-06-17  9:48       ` fengchengwen
2021-06-17 11:02         ` Bruce Richardson
2021-06-17 14:18           ` Bruce Richardson
2021-06-18  8:52             ` fengchengwen
2021-06-18  9:30               ` Bruce Richardson
2021-06-22 17:51               ` Jerin Jacob
2021-06-23  3:50                 ` fengchengwen
2021-06-23 11:00                   ` Jerin Jacob
2021-06-23 14:56                   ` Bruce Richardson
2021-06-24 12:19                     ` fengchengwen
2021-06-26  3:59                       ` [dpdk-dev] dmadev discussion summary fengchengwen
2021-06-28 10:00                         ` Bruce Richardson
2021-06-28 11:14                           ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2021-06-28 12:53                             ` Bruce Richardson
2021-07-02 13:31                           ` fengchengwen
2021-07-01 15:01                         ` Jerin Jacob
2021-07-01 16:33                           ` Bruce Richardson
2021-07-02  7:39                             ` Morten Brørup
2021-07-02 10:05                               ` Bruce Richardson
2021-07-02 13:45                           ` fengchengwen
2021-07-02 14:57                             ` Morten Brørup [this message]
2021-07-03  0:32                               ` fengchengwen
2021-07-03  8:53                                 ` Morten Brørup
2021-07-03  9:08                                   ` Jerin Jacob
2021-07-03 12:24                                     ` Morten Brørup
2021-07-04  7:43                                       ` Jerin Jacob
2021-07-05 10:28                                         ` Morten Brørup
2021-07-06  7:11                                           ` fengchengwen
2021-07-03  9:45                                   ` fengchengwen
2021-07-03 12:00                                     ` Morten Brørup
2021-07-04  7:34                                       ` Jerin Jacob
2021-07-02  7:07                         ` Liang Ma
2021-07-02 13:59                           ` fengchengwen
2021-06-24  7:03                   ` [dpdk-dev] [RFC PATCH] dmadev: introduce DMA device library Jerin Jacob
2021-06-24  7:59                     ` Morten Brørup
2021-06-24  8:05                       ` Jerin Jacob
2021-06-23  5:34       ` Hu, Jiayu
2021-06-23 11:07         ` Jerin Jacob
2021-06-16  2:17 ` Wang, Haiyue
2021-06-16  8:04   ` Bruce Richardson
2021-06-16  8:16     ` Wang, Haiyue
2021-06-16 12:14 ` David Marchand
2021-06-16 13:11   ` Bruce Richardson
2021-06-16 16:48     ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2021-06-16 19:10       ` Bruce Richardson

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