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From: Jerin Jacob <jerinjacobk@gmail.com>
To: fengchengwen <fengchengwen@huawei.com>
Cc: "Morten Brørup" <mb@smartsharesystems.com>,
	"Bruce Richardson" <bruce.richardson@intel.com>,
	"Thomas Monjalon" <thomas@monjalon.net>,
	"Ferruh Yigit" <ferruh.yigit@intel.com>, dpdk-dev <dev@dpdk.org>,
	"Nipun Gupta" <nipun.gupta@nxp.com>,
	"Hemant Agrawal" <hemant.agrawal@nxp.com>,
	"Maxime Coquelin" <maxime.coquelin@redhat.com>,
	"Honnappa Nagarahalli" <honnappa.nagarahalli@arm.com>,
	"Jerin Jacob" <jerinj@marvell.com>,
	"David Marchand" <david.marchand@redhat.com>,
	"Satananda Burla" <sburla@marvell.com>,
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Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [RFC PATCH] dmadev: introduce DMA device library
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2021 20:07:26 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CALBAE1MuSq1Heyk8_GR=O1aaXFvBY=A1v2076U4zzKyxjwC_Ww@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b0fdb909-584d-00ce-ed41-58f6ef020527@huawei.com>

On Wed, Jun 16, 2021 at 3:47 PM fengchengwen <fengchengwen@huawei.com> wrote:
>
> On 2021/6/16 15:09, Morten Brørup wrote:
> >> From: dev [mailto:dev-bounces@dpdk.org] On Behalf Of Bruce Richardson
> >> Sent: Tuesday, 15 June 2021 18.39
> >>
> >> On Tue, Jun 15, 2021 at 09:22:07PM +0800, Chengwen Feng wrote:
> >>> This patch introduces 'dmadevice' which is a generic type of DMA
> >>> device.
> >>>
> >>> The APIs of dmadev library exposes some generic operations which can
> >>> enable configuration and I/O with the DMA devices.
> >>>
> >>> Signed-off-by: Chengwen Feng <fengchengwen@huawei.com>
> >>> ---
> >> Thanks for sending this.
> >>
> >> Of most interest to me right now are the key data-plane APIs. While we
> >> are
> >> still in the prototyping phase, below is a draft of what we are
> >> thinking
> >> for the key enqueue/perform_ops/completed_ops APIs.
> >>
> >> Some key differences I note in below vs your original RFC:
> >> * Use of void pointers rather than iova addresses. While using iova's
> >> makes
> >>   sense in the general case when using hardware, in that it can work
> >> with
> >>   both physical addresses and virtual addresses, if we change the APIs
> >> to use
> >>   void pointers instead it will still work for DPDK in VA mode, while
> >> at the
> >>   same time allow use of software fallbacks in error cases, and also a
> >> stub
> >>   driver than uses memcpy in the background. Finally, using iova's
> >> makes the
> >>   APIs a lot more awkward to use with anything but mbufs or similar
> >> buffers
> >>   where we already have a pre-computed physical address.
> >> * Use of id values rather than user-provided handles. Allowing the
> >> user/app
> >>   to manage the amount of data stored per operation is a better
> >> solution, I
> >>   feel than proscribing a certain about of in-driver tracking. Some
> >> apps may
> >>   not care about anything other than a job being completed, while other
> >> apps
> >>   may have significant metadata to be tracked. Taking the user-context
> >>   handles out of the API also makes the driver code simpler.
> >> * I've kept a single combined API for completions, which differs from
> >> the
> >>   separate error handling completion API you propose. I need to give
> >> the
> >>   two function approach a bit of thought, but likely both could work.
> >> If we
> >>   (likely) never expect failed ops, then the specifics of error
> >> handling
> >>   should not matter that much.
> >>
> >> For the rest, the control / setup APIs are likely to be rather
> >> uncontroversial, I suspect. However, I think that rather than xstats
> >> APIs,
> >> the library should first provide a set of standardized stats like
> >> ethdev
> >> does. If driver-specific stats are needed, we can add xstats later to
> >> the
> >> API.
> >>
> >> Appreciate your further thoughts on this, thanks.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> /Bruce
> >
> > I generally agree with Bruce's points above.
> >
> > I would like to share a couple of ideas for further discussion:


I believe some of the other requirements and comments for generic DMA will be

1) Support for the _channel_, Each channel may have different
capabilities and functionalities.
Typical cases are, each channel have separate source and destination
devices like
DMA between PCIe EP to Host memory, Host memory to Host memory, PCIe
EP to PCIe EP.
So we need some notion of the channel in the specification.

2) I assume current data plane APIs are not thread-safe. Is it right?


3) Cookie scheme outlined earlier looks good to me. Instead of having
generic dequeue() API

4) Can split the rte_dmadev_enqueue_copy(uint16_t dev_id, void * src,
void * dst, unsigned int length);
to two stage API like, Where one will be used in fastpath and other
one will use used in slowpath.

- slowpath API will for take channel and take other attributes for transfer

Example syantx will be:

struct rte_dmadev_desc {
           channel id;
           ops ; // copy, xor, fill etc
          other arguments specific to dma transfer // it can be set
based on capability.

};

rte_dmadev_desc_t rte_dmadev_preprare(uint16_t dev_id,  struct
rte_dmadev_desc *dec);

- Fastpath takes arguments that need to change per transfer along with
slow-path handle.

rte_dmadev_enqueue(uint16_t dev_id, void * src, void * dst, unsigned
int length,  rte_dmadev_desc_t desc)

This will help to driver to
-Former API form the device-specific descriptors in slow path  for a
given channel and fixed attributes per transfer
-Later API blend "variable" arguments such as src, dest address with
slow-path created descriptors

The above will give better performance and is the best trade-off
between performance and per transfer variables.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-06-16 14:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-06-15 13:22 Chengwen Feng
2021-06-15 16:38 ` Bruce Richardson
2021-06-16  7:09   ` Morten Brørup
2021-06-16 10:17     ` fengchengwen
2021-06-16 12:09       ` Morten Brørup
2021-06-16 13:06       ` Bruce Richardson
2021-06-16 14:37       ` Jerin Jacob [this message]
2021-06-17  9:15         ` Bruce Richardson
2021-06-18  5:52           ` Jerin Jacob
2021-06-18  9:41             ` fengchengwen
2021-06-22 17:25               ` Jerin Jacob
2021-06-23  3:30                 ` fengchengwen
2021-06-23  7:21                   ` Jerin Jacob
2021-06-23  9:37                     ` Bruce Richardson
2021-06-23 11:40                       ` Jerin Jacob
2021-06-23 14:19                         ` Bruce Richardson
2021-06-24  6:49                           ` Jerin Jacob
2021-06-23  9:41                 ` Bruce Richardson
2021-06-23 10:10                   ` Morten Brørup
2021-06-23 11:46                   ` Jerin Jacob
2021-06-23 14:22                     ` Bruce Richardson
2021-06-18  9:55             ` Bruce Richardson
2021-06-22 17:31               ` Jerin Jacob
2021-06-22 19:17                 ` Bruce Richardson
2021-06-23  7:00                   ` Jerin Jacob
2021-06-16  9:41   ` fengchengwen
2021-06-16 17:31     ` Bruce Richardson
2021-06-16 18:08       ` Jerin Jacob
2021-06-16 19:13         ` Bruce Richardson
2021-06-17  7:42           ` Jerin Jacob
2021-06-17  8:00             ` Bruce Richardson
2021-06-18  5:16               ` Jerin Jacob
2021-06-18 10:03                 ` Bruce Richardson
2021-06-22 17:36                   ` Jerin Jacob
2021-06-17  9:48       ` fengchengwen
2021-06-17 11:02         ` Bruce Richardson
2021-06-17 14:18           ` Bruce Richardson
2021-06-18  8:52             ` fengchengwen
2021-06-18  9:30               ` Bruce Richardson
2021-06-22 17:51               ` Jerin Jacob
2021-06-23  3:50                 ` fengchengwen
2021-06-23 11:00                   ` Jerin Jacob
2021-06-23 14:56                   ` Bruce Richardson
2021-06-24 12:19                     ` fengchengwen
2021-06-26  3:59                       ` [dpdk-dev] dmadev discussion summary fengchengwen
2021-06-28 10:00                         ` Bruce Richardson
2021-06-28 11:14                           ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2021-06-28 12:53                             ` Bruce Richardson
2021-07-02 13:31                           ` fengchengwen
2021-07-01 15:01                         ` Jerin Jacob
2021-07-01 16:33                           ` Bruce Richardson
2021-07-02  7:39                             ` Morten Brørup
2021-07-02 10:05                               ` Bruce Richardson
2021-07-02 13:45                           ` fengchengwen
2021-07-02 14:57                             ` Morten Brørup
2021-07-03  0:32                               ` fengchengwen
2021-07-03  8:53                                 ` Morten Brørup
2021-07-03  9:08                                   ` Jerin Jacob
2021-07-03 12:24                                     ` Morten Brørup
2021-07-04  7:43                                       ` Jerin Jacob
2021-07-05 10:28                                         ` Morten Brørup
2021-07-06  7:11                                           ` fengchengwen
2021-07-03  9:45                                   ` fengchengwen
2021-07-03 12:00                                     ` Morten Brørup
2021-07-04  7:34                                       ` Jerin Jacob
2021-07-02  7:07                         ` Liang Ma
2021-07-02 13:59                           ` fengchengwen
2021-06-24  7:03                   ` [dpdk-dev] [RFC PATCH] dmadev: introduce DMA device library Jerin Jacob
2021-06-24  7:59                     ` Morten Brørup
2021-06-24  8:05                       ` Jerin Jacob
2021-06-23  5:34       ` Hu, Jiayu
2021-06-23 11:07         ` Jerin Jacob
2021-06-16  2:17 ` Wang, Haiyue
2021-06-16  8:04   ` Bruce Richardson
2021-06-16  8:16     ` Wang, Haiyue
2021-06-16 12:14 ` David Marchand
2021-06-16 13:11   ` Bruce Richardson
2021-06-16 16:48     ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2021-06-16 19:10       ` Bruce Richardson

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