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* [dpdk-dev] roundtrip delay
@ 2014-05-25 14:54 Helmut Sim
  2014-05-25 18:12 ` Jayakumar, Muthurajan
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 3+ messages in thread
From: Helmut Sim @ 2014-05-25 14:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: dev

Hi,

what is the way to optimize the round trip delay of a packet?
i.e. receiving a packet and then resending it back to the network in a
minimal time, assuming the rx and tx threads are on a continuous loop of
rx/tx.

Thanks,

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* Re: [dpdk-dev] roundtrip delay
  2014-05-25 14:54 [dpdk-dev] roundtrip delay Helmut Sim
@ 2014-05-25 18:12 ` Jayakumar, Muthurajan
  2014-05-27 18:30   ` Jun Han
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 3+ messages in thread
From: Jayakumar, Muthurajan @ 2014-05-25 18:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Helmut Sim, dev

Please kindly refer recent thread titled "DPDK Latency Issue" on similar topic. Below copied and pasted Jeff Shaw reply on that thread.

Hello,

> I measured a roundtrip latency (using Spirent traffic generator) of sending 64B packets over a 10GbE to DPDK, and DPDK does nothing but simply forward back to the incoming port (l3fwd without any lookup code, i.e., dstport = port_id).
> However, to my surprise, the average latency was around 150 usec. (The packet drop rate was only 0.001%, i.e., 283 packets/sec dropped) Another test I did was to measure the latency due to sending only a single 64B packet, and the latency I measured is ranging anywhere from 40 usec to 100 usec.

40-100usec seems very high.
The l3fwd application does some internal buffering before transmitting the packets.  It buffers either 32 packets, or waits up to 100us (hash-defined as BURST_TX_DRAIN_US), whichever comes first.
Try either removing this timeout, or sending a burst of 32 packets at time.  Or you could try with testpmd, which should have reasonably low latency out of the box.

There is also a section in the Release Notes (8.6 How can I tune my network application to achieve lower latency?) which provides some pointers for getting lower latency if you are willing to give up top-rate throughput.

Thanks,
Jeff

-----Original Message-----
From: dev [mailto:dev-bounces@dpdk.org] On Behalf Of Helmut Sim
Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2014 7:55 AM
To: dev@dpdk.org
Subject: [dpdk-dev] roundtrip delay

Hi,

what is the way to optimize the round trip delay of a packet?
i.e. receiving a packet and then resending it back to the network in a minimal time, assuming the rx and tx threads are on a continuous loop of rx/tx.

Thanks,

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 3+ messages in thread

* Re: [dpdk-dev] roundtrip delay
  2014-05-25 18:12 ` Jayakumar, Muthurajan
@ 2014-05-27 18:30   ` Jun Han
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 3+ messages in thread
From: Jun Han @ 2014-05-27 18:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Jayakumar, Muthurajan; +Cc: dev

Hi all,

I've also asked a similar question on the previous thread, but I'll copy it
here for better visibility. I would really appreciate it if you can provide
some hints to my question below. Thanks a lot!

Thanks a lot Jeff for your detailed explanation. I still have open question
left. I would be grateful if someone would share their insight on it.

I have performed experiments to vary both the MAX_BURST_SIZE (originally
set as 32) and BURST_TX_DRAIN_US (originally set as 100 usec) in l3fwd
main.c.

While I vary the MAX_BURST_SIZE (1, 8, 16, 32, 64, and 128) and fix
BURST_TX_DRAIN_US=100 usec, I see a low average latency when sending a
burst of packets less than or equal to the MAX_BURST_SIZE.
For example, when MAX_BURST_SIZE is 32, if I send a burst of 32 packets or
less, then I get around 10 usec of latency. When it goes over it, it starts
to get higher average latency, which make total sense.

My main question are the following. When I start sending continuous packet
at a rate of 14.88 Mpps for 64B packets, it shows consistently receiving an
average latency of 150 usec, no matter what MAX_BURST_SIZE. My guess is
that the latency should be bounded by BURST_TX_DRAIN_US, which is fixed at
100 usec. Would you share your thought on this issue please?



On Sun, May 25, 2014 at 8:12 PM, Jayakumar, Muthurajan <
muthurajan.jayakumar@intel.com> wrote:

> Please kindly refer recent thread titled "DPDK Latency Issue" on similar
> topic. Below copied and pasted Jeff Shaw reply on that thread.
>
> Hello,
>
> > I measured a roundtrip latency (using Spirent traffic generator) of
> sending 64B packets over a 10GbE to DPDK, and DPDK does nothing but simply
> forward back to the incoming port (l3fwd without any lookup code, i.e.,
> dstport = port_id).
> > However, to my surprise, the average latency was around 150 usec. (The
> packet drop rate was only 0.001%, i.e., 283 packets/sec dropped) Another
> test I did was to measure the latency due to sending only a single 64B
> packet, and the latency I measured is ranging anywhere from 40 usec to 100
> usec.
>
> 40-100usec seems very high.
> The l3fwd application does some internal buffering before transmitting the
> packets.  It buffers either 32 packets, or waits up to 100us (hash-defined
> as BURST_TX_DRAIN_US), whichever comes first.
> Try either removing this timeout, or sending a burst of 32 packets at
> time.  Or you could try with testpmd, which should have reasonably low
> latency out of the box.
>
> There is also a section in the Release Notes (8.6 How can I tune my
> network application to achieve lower latency?) which provides some pointers
> for getting lower latency if you are willing to give up top-rate throughput.
>
> Thanks,
> Jeff
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dev [mailto:dev-bounces@dpdk.org] On Behalf Of Helmut Sim
> Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2014 7:55 AM
> To: dev@dpdk.org
> Subject: [dpdk-dev] roundtrip delay
>
> Hi,
>
> what is the way to optimize the round trip delay of a packet?
> i.e. receiving a packet and then resending it back to the network in a
> minimal time, assuming the rx and tx threads are on a continuous loop of
> rx/tx.
>
> Thanks,
>

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