From: David Marchand <david.marchand@redhat.com>
To: Shahaf Shuler <shahafs@mellanox.com>
Cc: Flavio Leitner <fbl@sysclose.org>, "dev@dpdk.org" <dev@dpdk.org>,
Maxime Coquelin <maxime.coquelin@redhat.com>,
Tiwei Bie <tiwei.bie@intel.com>,
Zhihong Wang <zhihong.wang@intel.com>,
Obrembski MichalX <michalx.obrembski@intel.com>,
Stokes Ian <ian.stokes@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH] vhost: add support to large linear mbufs
Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2019 10:04:40 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJFAV8xebrgarbfM04sFcMANTOUxRMvEaud9bvLuVKneBBZQfg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AM0PR0502MB3795683AFDA5EE7759018EC4C39C0@AM0PR0502MB3795.eurprd05.prod.outlook.com>
Hello Shahaf,
On Wed, Oct 2, 2019 at 6:46 AM Shahaf Shuler <shahafs@mellanox.com> wrote:
>
> Wednesday, October 2, 2019 1:20 AM, Flavio Leitner:
> > Subject: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH] vhost: add support to large linear mbufs
> >
> > The rte_vhost_dequeue_burst supports two ways of dequeuing data. If the
> > data fits into a buffer, then all data is copied and a single linear buffer is
> > returned. Otherwise it allocates additional mbufs and chains them together
> > to return a multiple segments mbuf.
> >
> > While that covers most use cases, it forces applications that need to work
> > with larger data sizes to support multiple segments mbufs.
> > The non-linear characteristic brings complexity and performance implications
> > to the application.
> >
> > To resolve the issue, change the API so that the application can optionally
> > provide a second mempool containing larger mbufs. If that is not provided
> > (NULL), the behavior remains as before the change.
> > Otherwise, the data size is checked and the corresponding mempool is used
> > to return linear mbufs.
>
> I understand the motivation.
> However, providing a static pool w/ large buffers is not so efficient in terms of memory footprint. You will need to prepare to worst case (all packet are large) w/ max size of 64KB.
> Also, the two mempools are quite restrictive as the memory fill of the mbufs might be very sparse. E.g. mempool1 mbuf.size = 1.5K , mempool2 mbuf.size = 64K, packet size 4KB.
>
> Instead, how about using the mbuf external buffer feature?
> The flow will be:
> 1. vhost PMD always receive a single mempool (like today)
> 2. on dequeue, PMD looks on the virtio packet size. If smaller than the mbuf size use the mbuf as is (like today)
> 3. otherwise, allocate a new buffer (inside the PMD) and link it to the mbuf as external buffer (rte_pktmbuf_attach_extbuf)
I am missing some piece here.
Which pool would the PMD take those external buffers from?
If it is from an additional mempool passed to the vhost pmd, I can't
see the difference with Flavio proposal.
> The pros of this approach is that you have full flexibility on the memory allocation, and therefore a lower footprint.
> The cons is the OVS will need to know how to handle mbuf w/ external buffers (not too complex IMO).
--
David Marchand
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-10-02 8:04 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-10-01 22:19 Flavio Leitner
2019-10-01 23:10 ` Flavio Leitner
2019-10-02 4:45 ` Shahaf Shuler
2019-10-02 8:04 ` David Marchand [this message]
2019-10-02 9:00 ` Shahaf Shuler
2019-10-02 12:58 ` Flavio Leitner
2019-10-02 17:50 ` Shahaf Shuler
2019-10-02 18:15 ` Flavio Leitner
2019-10-03 16:57 ` Ilya Maximets
2019-10-03 21:25 ` Flavio Leitner
2019-10-02 7:51 ` Maxime Coquelin
2019-10-04 20:10 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2] vhost: add support for large buffers Flavio Leitner
2019-10-06 4:47 ` Shahaf Shuler
2019-10-10 5:12 ` Tiwei Bie
2019-10-10 12:12 ` Flavio Leitner
2019-10-11 17:09 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3] " Flavio Leitner
2019-10-14 2:44 ` Tiwei Bie
2019-10-15 16:17 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4] " Flavio Leitner
2019-10-15 17:41 ` Ilya Maximets
2019-10-15 18:44 ` Flavio Leitner
2019-10-15 18:59 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5] " Flavio Leitner
2019-10-16 10:02 ` Maxime Coquelin
2019-10-16 11:13 ` Maxime Coquelin
2019-10-16 13:32 ` Ilya Maximets
2019-10-16 13:46 ` Maxime Coquelin
2019-10-16 14:02 ` Flavio Leitner
2019-10-16 14:08 ` Ilya Maximets
2019-10-16 14:14 ` Flavio Leitner
2019-10-16 14:05 ` Ilya Maximets
2019-10-29 9:02 ` David Marchand
2019-10-29 12:21 ` Flavio Leitner
2019-10-29 16:19 ` David Marchand
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