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From: Jerin Jacob <jerinjacobk@gmail.com>
To: Ray Kinsella <mdr@ashroe.eu>
Cc: dpdk-dev <dev@dpdk.org>,
	"Richardson, Bruce" <bruce.richardson@intel.com>,
	 Jerin Jacob Kollanukkaran <jerinj@marvell.com>,
	Hemant Agrawal <hemant.agrawal@nxp.com>,
	 Thomas Monjalon <thomas@monjalon.net>,
	Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>,
	 "Yigit, Ferruh" <ferruh.yigit@intel.com>,
	 "Ananyev, Konstantin" <konstantin.ananyev@intel.com>,
	maxime.coquelin@redhat.com,
	David Marchand <david.marchand@redhat.com>,
	Marcin Zapolski <marcinx.a.zapolski@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] RFC: hiding struct rte_eth_dev
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2019 22:12:16 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CALBAE1MDs=94LV5d0md4C27gA7iw+iS=1bdHURup6Y+3kYdcgw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <980083c6-130a-9658-f82b-0c9ddc7cc0cc@ashroe.eu>

On Mon, Sep 23, 2019 at 9:49 PM Ray Kinsella <mdr@ashroe.eu> wrote:
>
> Hi folks,
>
> The ABI Stability proposals should be pretty well known at this point.
> The latest rev is here ...
>
> http://inbox.dpdk.org/dev/1565864619-17206-1-git-send-email-mdr@ashroe.eu/
>
> As has been discussed public data structure's are risky for ABI
> stability, as any changes to a data structure can change the ABI. As a
> general rule you want to expose as few as possible (ideally none), and
> keep them as small as possible.
>
> One of the key data structures in DPDK is `struct rte_eth_dev`. In this
> case, rte_eth_dev is exposed public-ally, as a side-effect of the
> inlining of the [rx,tx]_burst functions.
>
> Marcin Zapolski has been looking at what to do about it, with no current
> consensus on a path forward. The options on our table is:-
>
> 1. Do nothing, live with the risk to DPDK v20 ABI stability.
>
> 2. Pad rte_eth_dev, add some extra bytes to the structure "in case" we
> need to add a field during the v20 ABI (through to 20.11).
>
> 3. Break rte_eth_dev into public and private structs.
>   - See
> http://inbox.dpdk.org/dev/20190906131813.1343-1-marcinx.a.zapolski@intel.com/
>   - This ends up quiet an invasive patch, late in the cycle, however it
> does have no performance penalty.
>
> 4. Uninline [rx,tx]_burst functions
>  -  See
> http://inbox.dpdk.org/dev/20190730124950.1293-1-marcinx.a.zapolski@intel.com/
>  - This has a performance penalty of ~2% with testpmd, impact on a "real
> workload" is likely to be in the noise.
>
> We need to agree an approach for v19.11, and that may be we agree to do
> nothing. My personal vote is 4. as the simplest with minimal impact.

My preference NOT to do #4. Reasons are:
- I have seen performance drop from 1.5% to 3.5% based on the arm64
cores in use(Embedded vs Server cores)
-  We need the correct approach to cater to cryptodev and eventdev as
well. If #4 is checked in, We will
take shotcut for cryptodev and eventdev

My preference  #1, do nothing, is probably ok and could live with #2,
adding padding,
and fix properly with #3 as when needed and use #3 scheme for crypto
dev and eventdev as well.


>
> Thanks,
>
> Ray K

  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-09-24 16:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-09-23 16:19 Ray Kinsella
2019-09-23 16:35 ` Bruce Richardson
2019-09-24  9:07 ` Morten Brørup
2019-09-24 16:42 ` Jerin Jacob [this message]
2019-09-24 16:50   ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2019-09-26 11:13     ` Andrew Rybchenko
2019-09-26 11:50       ` David Marchand
2019-09-26 11:52         ` David Marchand

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