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From: "Mattias Rönnblom" <hofors@lysator.liu.se>
To: Tyler Retzlaff <roretzla@linux.microsoft.com>, dev@dpdk.org
Cc: "Bruce Richardson" <bruce.richardson@intel.com>,
	"Stephen Hemminger" <stephen@networkplumber.org>,
	"Thomas Monjalon" <thomas@monjalon.net>,
	"Morten Brørup" <mb@smartsharesystems.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/4] RFC samples converting VLA to alloca
Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2024 11:31:48 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <adb81b30-bece-416b-a233-b08873d196f6@lysator.liu.se> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1712250913-1977-1-git-send-email-roretzla@linux.microsoft.com>

On 2024-04-04 19:15, Tyler Retzlaff wrote:
> This series is not intended for merge.  It insteat provides examples of
> converting use of VLAs to alloca() would look like.
> 
> what's the advantages of VLA over alloca()?
> 
> * sizeof(array) works as expected.
> 
> * multi-dimensional arrays are still arrays instead of pointers to
>    dynamically allocated space. this means multiple subscript syntax
>    works (unlike on a pointer) and calculation of addresses into allocated
>    space in ascending order is performed by the compiler instead of manually.
> 

alloca() is a pretty obscure mechanism, and also not a part of the C 
standard. VLAs are C99, and well-known and understood, and very efficient.

> what's the disadvantage of VLA over alloca()?
> 
> * VLA generation is subtl/implicit, there do appear to be places where
>    a VLA is being used where it perhaps was not intended but it is hard
>    to spot. e.g. hotpath rte_mbuf *array[burst_size]; where burst_size
>    is not a constant expression, e.g. unintended in other syntax positions
>    that are not intuitive, see patchwork link.
> 
>    https://patchwork.dpdk.org/project/dpdk/patch/1699896038-28106-1-git-send-email-roretzla@linux.microsoft.com/
> 
> for the above reasons i'd recommend only converting to alloca() where
> necessary (msvc has to compile it) and for the other instances leave
> them as they are.
> 
> Tyler Retzlaff (4):
>    latencystats: use alloca instead of vla trivial
>    hash: use alloca instead of vla trivial
>    vhost: use alloca instead of vla sizeof
>    dispatcher: use alloca instead of vla multi dimensional
> 
>   lib/dispatcher/rte_dispatcher.c     | 6 +++---
>   lib/hash/rte_thash.c                | 2 +-
>   lib/latencystats/rte_latencystats.c | 2 +-
>   lib/vhost/socket.c                  | 5 +++--
>   4 files changed, 8 insertions(+), 7 deletions(-)
> 

  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-04-07  9:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-11-07 19:32 RFC acceptable handling of VLAs across toolchains Tyler Retzlaff
2023-11-08  2:31 ` Stephen Hemminger
2023-11-08  3:25   ` Tyler Retzlaff
2023-11-08  8:19     ` Morten Brørup
2023-11-08 16:51 ` Stephen Hemminger
2023-11-08 17:48   ` Morten Brørup
2023-11-09 10:25     ` RFC: default burst sizes in rte_config Morten Brørup
2023-11-09 20:26   ` RFC acceptable handling of VLAs across toolchains Tyler Retzlaff
2024-03-21  0:12     ` Tyler Retzlaff
2024-04-04 17:15 ` [PATCH 0/4] RFC samples converting VLA to alloca Tyler Retzlaff
2024-04-04 17:15   ` [PATCH 1/4] latencystats: use alloca instead of vla trivial Tyler Retzlaff
2024-04-06 15:28     ` Morten Brørup
2024-04-07  9:36       ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-04-07 17:00         ` Stephen Hemminger
2024-04-04 17:15   ` [PATCH 2/4] hash: " Tyler Retzlaff
2024-04-06 16:01     ` Morten Brørup
2024-04-04 17:15   ` [PATCH 3/4] vhost: use alloca instead of vla sizeof Tyler Retzlaff
2024-04-06 22:30     ` Morten Brørup
2024-04-04 17:15   ` [PATCH 4/4] dispatcher: use alloca instead of vla multi dimensional Tyler Retzlaff
2024-04-06 15:49     ` Morten Brørup
2024-04-07  9:31   ` Mattias Rönnblom [this message]
2024-04-07 11:07     ` [PATCH 0/4] RFC samples converting VLA to alloca Morten Brørup
2024-04-07 17:03       ` Stephen Hemminger
2024-04-08 15:27         ` Tyler Retzlaff
2024-04-08 15:53           ` Morten Brørup
2024-04-09  8:28             ` Konstantin Ananyev
2024-04-09 15:08               ` Tyler Retzlaff
2024-04-10  9:58                 ` Konstantin Ananyev
2024-04-10 17:03                   ` Tyler Retzlaff
2024-04-10  7:32             ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-04-10  7:52               ` Morten Brørup
2024-04-10 17:04               ` Tyler Retzlaff
2024-04-10  7:27           ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-04-10 17:10             ` Tyler Retzlaff

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