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From: "Mattias Rönnblom" <hofors@lysator.liu.se>
To: Bruce Richardson <bruce.richardson@intel.com>,
	"Van Haaren, Harry" <harry.van.haaren@intel.com>
Cc: "Honnappa Nagarahalli" <Honnappa.Nagarahalli@arm.com>,
	"dev@dpdk.org" <dev@dpdk.org>,
	"mattias.ronnblom" <mattias.ronnblom@ericsson.com>,
	"Morten Brørup" <mb@smartsharesystems.com>, nd <nd@arm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] service: fix potential stats race-condition on MT services
Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2022 22:02:24 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <dfc227f8-e758-ebf3-4cc7-b4811f22c46c@lysator.liu.se> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YshZcquSc7YNgo9A@bricha3-MOBL.ger.corp.intel.com>

On 2022-07-08 18:21, Bruce Richardson wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 08, 2022 at 03:31:01PM +0000, Van Haaren, Harry wrote:
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Honnappa Nagarahalli <Honnappa.Nagarahalli@arm.com>
>>> Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 4:16 PM
>>> To: Van Haaren, Harry <harry.van.haaren@intel.com>; dev@dpdk.org
>>> Cc: mattias.ronnblom <mattias.ronnblom@ericsson.com>; Morten Brørup
>>> <mb@smartsharesystems.com>; nd <nd@arm.com>; nd <nd@arm.com>
>>> Subject: RE: [PATCH 2/2] service: fix potential stats race-condition on MT services
>>
>> <snip previous discussions>
>>
>>>> diff --git a/lib/eal/common/rte_service.c b/lib/eal/common/rte_service.c
>>>> index ef31b1f63c..f045e74ef3 100644
>>>> --- a/lib/eal/common/rte_service.c
>>>> +++ b/lib/eal/common/rte_service.c
>>>> @@ -363,9 +363,15 @@ service_runner_do_callback(struct
>>>> rte_service_spec_impl *s,
>>>>   		uint64_t start = rte_rdtsc();
>>>>   		s->spec.callback(userdata);
>>>>   		uint64_t end = rte_rdtsc();
>>>> -		s->cycles_spent += end - start;
>>>> +		uint64_t cycles = end - start;
>>>>   		cs->calls_per_service[service_idx]++;
>>>> -		s->calls++;
>>>> +		if (service_mt_safe(s)) {
>>>> +			__atomic_fetch_add(&s->cycles_spent, cycles,
>>>> __ATOMIC_RELAXED);
>>>> +			__atomic_fetch_add(&s->calls, 1,
>>>> __ATOMIC_RELAXED);
>>>> +		} else {
>>>> +			s->cycles_spent += cycles;
>>>> +			s->calls++;
>>> This is still a problem from a reader perspective. It is possible that the writes could be
>>> split while a reader is reading the stats. These need to be atomic adds.
>>
>> Thanks for pointing out; I do "think" in x86 in terms of load/store tearing; and on x86
>> naturally aligned load/stores will not tear. Apologies for missing the ARM angle here.
>>
>> I'm not sure how to best encode the difference between tearing & "locked instructions"
>> to make things multi-writer safe. But they're not the same thing, and I'd prefer not pay
>> the penalty for LOCK instructions (multi-writer) only to satisfy the non-tearing requirements.
>>
>> Is there an rte_atomic-* type that is guaranteed as non-tearing?
>>
>> In that case, changing the type of the calls/cycles_spent variables to such a type to ensure "non-tearing"
>> single-reader, single-writer behaviour is enough, instead of forcing __atomic_fetch_add() everywhere?
> 
> Regular read, increment and then atomic store should work without locks
> where alignment is correct on most architectures, and doing the store
> atomically should prevent any tearing.

This is a good pattern, and provides a noticeable performance benefit 
compared to using an atomic add (which is an overkill in single-writer 
scenarios), in my experience. The DPDK seqcount implementation 
increments the count in this manner.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-07-08 20:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-07-08 12:56 [PATCH 1/2] test/service: add perf measurements for with stats mode Harry van Haaren
2022-07-08 12:56 ` [PATCH 2/2] service: fix potential stats race-condition on MT services Harry van Haaren
2022-07-08 13:23   ` Morten Brørup
2022-07-08 13:44     ` Van Haaren, Harry
2022-07-08 14:14       ` Morten Brørup
2022-07-08 13:48   ` Mattias Rönnblom
2022-07-08 15:16   ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2022-07-08 15:31     ` Van Haaren, Harry
2022-07-08 16:21       ` Bruce Richardson
2022-07-08 16:33         ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2022-07-08 20:02         ` Mattias Rönnblom [this message]
2022-07-08 16:29     ` Morten Brørup
2022-07-08 16:45       ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2022-07-08 17:22         ` Morten Brørup
2022-07-08 17:39           ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2022-07-08 18:08             ` Morten Brørup
2022-09-06 16:13   ` [PATCH 1/6] service: reduce statistics overhead for parallel services Mattias Rönnblom
2022-09-06 16:13     ` [PATCH 2/6] service: introduce per-lcore cycles counter Mattias Rönnblom
2022-09-06 16:13     ` [PATCH 3/6] service: reduce average case service core overhead Mattias Rönnblom
2022-10-03 13:33       ` Van Haaren, Harry
2022-10-03 14:32         ` Mattias Rönnblom
2022-09-06 16:13     ` [PATCH 4/6] service: tweak cycle statistics semantics Mattias Rönnblom
2022-09-07  8:41       ` Morten Brørup
2022-10-03 13:45         ` Van Haaren, Harry
2022-09-06 16:13     ` [PATCH 5/6] event/sw: report idle when no work is performed Mattias Rönnblom
2022-09-06 16:13     ` [PATCH 6/6] service: provide links to functions in documentation Mattias Rönnblom
2022-10-03  8:06     ` [PATCH 1/6] service: reduce statistics overhead for parallel services David Marchand
2022-10-03  8:40       ` Mattias Rönnblom
2022-10-03  9:53         ` David Marchand
2022-10-03 11:37           ` Mattias Rönnblom
2022-10-03 13:03             ` Van Haaren, Harry
2022-10-03 13:33     ` Van Haaren, Harry
2022-10-03 14:37       ` Mattias Rönnblom
2022-10-05  9:16     ` [PATCH v2 0/6] Service cores performance and statistics improvements Mattias Rönnblom
2022-10-05  9:16       ` [PATCH v2 1/6] service: reduce statistics overhead for parallel services Mattias Rönnblom
2022-10-05  9:16       ` [PATCH v2 2/6] service: introduce per-lcore cycles counter Mattias Rönnblom
2022-10-05  9:16       ` [PATCH v2 3/6] service: reduce average case service core overhead Mattias Rönnblom
2022-10-05  9:16       ` [PATCH v2 4/6] service: tweak cycle statistics semantics Mattias Rönnblom
2022-10-05  9:16       ` [PATCH v2 5/6] event/sw: report idle when no work is performed Mattias Rönnblom
2022-10-05  9:16       ` [PATCH v2 6/6] service: provide links to functions in documentation Mattias Rönnblom
2022-10-05  9:49       ` [PATCH v2 0/6] Service cores performance and statistics improvements Morten Brørup
2022-10-05 10:14         ` Mattias Rönnblom
2022-10-05 13:39       ` David Marchand

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