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From: "Mattias Rönnblom" <hofors@lysator.liu.se>
To: Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>
Cc: dev@dpdk.org, "Mattias Rönnblom" <mattias.ronnblom@ericsson.com>,
	"Bruce Richardson" <bruce.richardson@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/2] random: make rte_rand() thread safe for non-EAL threads
Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2023 09:00:42 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <e4348e47-e4ee-0605-e70b-9692c9129be0@lysator.liu.se> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230908135602.4a9026c0@hermes.local>

On 2023-09-08 22:56, Stephen Hemminger wrote:
> On Fri, 8 Sep 2023 22:48:54 +0200
> Mattias Rönnblom <hofors@lysator.liu.se> wrote:
> 
>> On 2023-09-07 17:24, Stephen Hemminger wrote:
>>> Add missing locking so that if two non-EAL threads call rte_rand()
>>> they will not corrupt the per-thread state.
>>>
>>> Fixes: 3f002f069612 ("eal: replace libc-based random generation with LFSR")
>>
>> The API documentation clearly states that no MT safety guarantees are
>> given for unregistered non-EAL threads. So this patch doesn't fix anything.
>>
>> rte_rand() is MT safe for *registered* non-EAL threads.
> 
> Reading the documentation, it only guarantees safety if registered.
> We should add an otherwise clause rather than leaving case as undefined.

I agree. It is MT safe in case only single unregistered non-EAL thread 
uses the API (or multiple such threads, provided they are properly 
[externally] serialized).

"If called from EAL threads, registered non-EAL threads or a *single* 
unregistered non-EAL thread, this function is thread-safe. Multiple 
unregistered non-EAL threads may not safely call this function in 
parallel (i.e., must use external serialization)."

A lot of words, unfortunately. Maybe this is better:

"rte_xxx() is MT safe, with the exception it may not be called from 
multiple *unregistered* non-EAL threads in parallel."

Then of course comes the issue that nobody knows what is an registered 
non-EAL thread is. DPDK threading terminology is a big mess, so no wonder.

  reply	other threads:[~2023-09-09  7:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-09-06 15:53 [PATCH] random: initialize the random state for non-eal lcores Stephen Hemminger
2023-09-06 16:25 ` Morten Brørup
2023-09-06 16:28 ` Stephen Hemminger
2023-09-07 15:24 ` [PATCH v2 0/2] fixes to rte_random for non-EAL threads Stephen Hemminger
2023-09-07 15:24   ` [PATCH v2 1/2] random: initialize the random state " Stephen Hemminger
2023-10-02  9:00     ` Morten Brørup
2023-10-02 12:27     ` Mattias Rönnblom
2023-10-02 16:07       ` Stephen Hemminger
2023-10-04  8:45       ` David Marchand
2023-09-07 15:24   ` [PATCH v2 2/2] random: make rte_rand() thread safe " Stephen Hemminger
2023-09-07 15:47     ` Stephen Hemminger
2023-09-07 16:10       ` David Marchand
2023-09-08 20:48     ` Mattias Rönnblom
2023-09-08 20:56       ` Stephen Hemminger
2023-09-09  7:00         ` Mattias Rönnblom [this message]
2023-10-02 16:10     ` Stephen Hemminger

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