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From: "Ananyev, Konstantin" <konstantin.ananyev@intel.com>
To: Akhil Goyal <akhil.goyal@nxp.com>,
	"Zhang, Roy Fan" <roy.fan.zhang@intel.com>,
	"'dev@dpdk.org'" <dev@dpdk.org>,
	"De Lara Guarch, Pablo" <pablo.de.lara.guarch@intel.com>,
	'Thomas Monjalon' <thomas@monjalon.net>,
	"Doherty, Declan" <declan.doherty@intel.com>
Cc: 'Anoob Joseph' <anoobj@marvell.com>,
	Jerin Jacob <jerinj@marvell.com>,
	Hemant Agrawal <hemant.agrawal@nxp.com>,
	dpdk-techboard <techboard@dpdk.org>
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [RFC PATCH 1/9] security: introduce CPU Crypto action type and API
Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2019 13:04:55 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2601191342CEEE43887BDE71AB97725801A8C698A9@IRSMSX104.ger.corp.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <VE1PR04MB66396F3B5B31080ABFC2F126E6930@VE1PR04MB6639.eurprd04.prod.outlook.com>



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Akhil Goyal [mailto:akhil.goyal@nxp.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 4:02 PM
> To: Ananyev, Konstantin <konstantin.ananyev@intel.com>; Zhang, Roy Fan <roy.fan.zhang@intel.com>; 'dev@dpdk.org' <dev@dpdk.org>;
> De Lara Guarch, Pablo <pablo.de.lara.guarch@intel.com>; 'Thomas Monjalon' <thomas@monjalon.net>; Doherty, Declan
> <declan.doherty@intel.com>
> Cc: 'Anoob Joseph' <anoobj@marvell.com>; Jerin Jacob <jerinj@marvell.com>; Hemant Agrawal <hemant.agrawal@nxp.com>
> Subject: RE: [RFC PATCH 1/9] security: introduce CPU Crypto action type and API
> 
> 
> 
> >
> >
> > > Hi Akhil,
> > >
> > > Thanks for the review and comments!
> > > Knowing you are extremely busy. Here is my point in brief:
> > > I think placing the CPU synchronous crypto in the rte_security make sense, as
> > >
> > > 1. rte_security contains inline crypto and lookaside crypto action type already,
> > adding cpu_crypto action type is reasonable.
> > > 2. rte_security contains the security features may not supported by all devices,
> > such as crypto, ipsec, and PDCP. cpu_crypto follow this
> > > category, again crypto.
> > > 3. placing CPU synchronous crypto API in rte_security is natural - as inline
> > mode works synchronously, too. However cryptodev doesn't.
> > > 4. placing CPU synchronous crypto API in rte_security helps boosting SW
> > crypto performance, I have already provided a simple perf test
> > > inside the unit test in the patchset for the user to try out - just comparing its
> > output against DPDK crypto perf app output.
> > > 5. placing CPU synchronous crypto API in cryptodev will never serve HW
> > lookaside crypto PMDs, as making them to work synchronously
> > > have huge performance penalty. However Cryptodev framework's existing
> > design is providing APIs that will work in all crypto PMDs
> > > (rte_cryptodev_enqueue_burst / dequeue_burst for example), this does not fit
> > in cryptodev's principle.
> > > 6. placing CPU synchronous crypto API in cryptodev confuses the user, as:
> > > 	- the session created for async mode may not work in sync mode
> > > 	- both enqueue/dequeue and cpu_crypto_process does the same crypto
> > processing, but one PMD may support only one API (set),
> > > the other may support another, and the third PMD supports both. We have to
> > provide another API to let the user query which one to
> > > support which.
> > > 	- two completely different code paths for async/sync mode.
> > > 7. You said in the end of the email - placing CPU synchronous crypto API into
> > rte_security is not acceptable as it does not do any
> > > rte_security stuff - crypto isn't? You may call this a quibble, but in my idea, in
> > the patchset both PMDs' implementations did offload the work
> > > to the CPU's special circuit designed dedicated to accelerate the crypto
> > processing.
> > >
> > > To me cryptodev is the one CPU synchronous crypto API should not go into,
> > rte_security is.
> >
> > I also don't understand why rte_security is not an option here.
> > We do have inline-crypto right now, why we can't have cpu-crypto with new
> > process() API here?
> > Actually would like to hear more opinions from the community here -
> > what other interested parties think is the best way for introducing cpu-crypto
> > specific API?
> 
> I have raised this concern in the weekly status meeting as well. But it looks like nobody
> is interested.

That's really a pity...
CC-ing it to TB members, hopefully someone would be interested,
or at least can forward to interested person.
Konstantin


  reply	other threads:[~2019-10-16 13:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 87+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-09-03 15:40 [dpdk-dev] [RFC PATCH 0/9] security: add software synchronous crypto process Fan Zhang
2019-09-03 15:40 ` [dpdk-dev] [RFC PATCH 1/9] security: introduce CPU Crypto action type and API Fan Zhang
2019-09-04 10:32   ` Akhil Goyal
2019-09-04 13:06     ` Zhang, Roy Fan
2019-09-06  9:01       ` Akhil Goyal
2019-09-06 13:12         ` Zhang, Roy Fan
2019-09-10 11:25           ` Akhil Goyal
2019-09-11 13:01             ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2019-09-06 13:27         ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2019-09-10 10:44           ` Akhil Goyal
2019-09-11 12:29             ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2019-09-12 14:12               ` Akhil Goyal
2019-09-16 14:53                 ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2019-09-16 15:08                   ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2019-09-17  6:02                   ` Akhil Goyal
2019-09-18  7:44                     ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2019-09-25 18:24                       ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2019-09-27  9:26                         ` Akhil Goyal
2019-09-30 12:22                           ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2019-09-30 13:43                             ` Akhil Goyal
2019-10-01 14:49                               ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2019-10-03 13:24                                 ` Akhil Goyal
2019-10-07 12:53                                   ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2019-10-09  7:20                                     ` Akhil Goyal
2019-10-09 13:43                                       ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2019-10-11 13:23                                         ` Akhil Goyal
2019-10-13 23:07                                           ` Zhang, Roy Fan
2019-10-14 11:10                                             ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2019-10-15 15:02                                               ` Akhil Goyal
2019-10-16 13:04                                                 ` Ananyev, Konstantin [this message]
2019-10-15 15:00                                             ` Akhil Goyal
2019-10-16 22:07                                           ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2019-10-17 12:49                                             ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2019-10-18 13:17                                             ` Akhil Goyal
2019-10-21 13:47                                               ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2019-10-22 13:31                                                 ` Akhil Goyal
2019-10-22 17:44                                                   ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2019-10-22 22:21                                                     ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2019-10-23 10:05                                                     ` Akhil Goyal
2019-10-30 14:23                                                       ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2019-11-01 13:53                                                         ` Akhil Goyal
2019-09-03 15:40 ` [dpdk-dev] [RFC PATCH 2/9] crypto/aesni_gcm: add rte_security handler Fan Zhang
2019-09-03 15:40 ` [dpdk-dev] [RFC PATCH 3/9] app/test: add security cpu crypto autotest Fan Zhang
2019-09-03 15:40 ` [dpdk-dev] [RFC PATCH 4/9] app/test: add security cpu crypto perftest Fan Zhang
2019-09-03 15:40 ` [dpdk-dev] [RFC PATCH 5/9] crypto/aesni_mb: add rte_security handler Fan Zhang
2019-09-03 15:40 ` [dpdk-dev] [RFC PATCH 6/9] app/test: add aesni_mb security cpu crypto autotest Fan Zhang
2019-09-03 15:40 ` [dpdk-dev] [RFC PATCH 7/9] app/test: add aesni_mb security cpu crypto perftest Fan Zhang
2019-09-03 15:40 ` [dpdk-dev] [RFC PATCH 8/9] ipsec: add rte_security cpu_crypto action support Fan Zhang
2019-09-03 15:40 ` [dpdk-dev] [RFC PATCH 9/9] examples/ipsec-secgw: add security " Fan Zhang
2019-09-06 13:13 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 00/10] security: add software synchronous crypto process Fan Zhang
2019-09-06 13:13   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 01/10] security: introduce CPU Crypto action type and API Fan Zhang
2019-09-18 12:45     ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2019-09-29  6:00     ` Hemant Agrawal
2019-09-29 16:59       ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2019-09-30  9:43         ` Hemant Agrawal
2019-10-01 15:27           ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2019-10-02  2:47             ` Hemant Agrawal
2019-09-06 13:13   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 02/10] crypto/aesni_gcm: add rte_security handler Fan Zhang
2019-09-18 10:24     ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2019-09-06 13:13   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 03/10] app/test: add security cpu crypto autotest Fan Zhang
2019-09-06 13:13   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 04/10] app/test: add security cpu crypto perftest Fan Zhang
2019-09-06 13:13   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 05/10] crypto/aesni_mb: add rte_security handler Fan Zhang
2019-09-18 15:20     ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2019-09-06 13:13   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 06/10] app/test: add aesni_mb security cpu crypto autotest Fan Zhang
2019-09-06 13:13   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 07/10] app/test: add aesni_mb security cpu crypto perftest Fan Zhang
2019-09-06 13:13   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 08/10] ipsec: add rte_security cpu_crypto action support Fan Zhang
2019-09-26 23:20     ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2019-09-27 10:38     ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2019-09-06 13:13   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 09/10] examples/ipsec-secgw: add security " Fan Zhang
2019-09-06 13:13   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 10/10] doc: update security cpu process description Fan Zhang
2019-09-09 12:43   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 00/10] security: add software synchronous crypto process Aaron Conole
2019-10-07 16:28   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 " Fan Zhang
2019-10-07 16:28     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 01/10] security: introduce CPU Crypto action type and API Fan Zhang
2019-10-08 13:42       ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2019-10-07 16:28     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 02/10] crypto/aesni_gcm: add rte_security handler Fan Zhang
2019-10-08 13:44       ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2019-10-07 16:28     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 03/10] app/test: add security cpu crypto autotest Fan Zhang
2019-10-07 16:28     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 04/10] app/test: add security cpu crypto perftest Fan Zhang
2019-10-07 16:28     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 05/10] crypto/aesni_mb: add rte_security handler Fan Zhang
2019-10-08 16:23       ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2019-10-09  8:29       ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2019-10-07 16:28     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 06/10] app/test: add aesni_mb security cpu crypto autotest Fan Zhang
2019-10-07 16:28     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 07/10] app/test: add aesni_mb security cpu crypto perftest Fan Zhang
2019-10-07 16:28     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 08/10] ipsec: add rte_security cpu_crypto action support Fan Zhang
2019-10-08 23:28       ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2019-10-07 16:28     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 09/10] examples/ipsec-secgw: add security " Fan Zhang
2019-10-07 16:28     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 10/10] doc: update security cpu process description Fan Zhang

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