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From: Jan Viktorin <viktorin@rehivetech.com>
To: Thomas Monjalon <thomas.monjalon@6wind.com>
Cc: Jerin Jacob <jerin.jacob@caviumnetworks.com>,
	Tomasz Kulasek <tomaszx.kulasek@intel.com>,
	dev@dpdk.org, jianbo.liu@linaro.org
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5] examples/l3fwd: em path performance fix
Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2016 12:56:50 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160318125650.7469a086@pcviktorin.fit.vutbr.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1734050.PspUeD4iGQ@xps13>

Hello Thomas, Jerin, Tomasz, all...

On Fri, 18 Mar 2016 12:00:24 +0100
Thomas Monjalon <thomas.monjalon@6wind.com> wrote:

> 2016-03-18 16:22, Jerin Jacob:
> > On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 11:04:49AM +0100, Thomas Monjalon wrote:  
> > > 2016-03-18 10:52, Tomasz Kulasek:  
> > > > +#if !defined(NO_HASH_MULTI_LOOKUP) && defined(__ARM_NEON)  
> > > 
> > > I think we should use CONFIG_RTE_ARCH_ARM_NEON here.
> > > Any ARM maintainer to confirm?  
> > 
> > __ARM_NEON should work existing GCC, but it is better to use
> > RTE_MACHINE_CPUFLAG_NEON as
> > -it has been generated by probing the compiler capabilities.
> > -it's future-proof solution to support clang or other gcc versions in
> > future  
> 
> I agree to use RTE_MACHINE_CPUFLAG_NEON.
> 
> I just don't understand why CONFIG_RTE_ARCH_ARM_NEON has been introduced.
> It seems to be used to disable NEON on ARMv7:

This is true. You should be able to disable the NEON-specific code if it
is unwanted. Eg., the memcpy operations are not always faster with NEON.
But...

$ git grep ARM_NEON
...
lib/librte_eal/common/include/arch/arm/rte_memcpy_32.h:45:#ifdef __ARM_NEON_FP
lib/librte_eal/common/include/arch/arm/rte_memcpy_32.h:328:#endif /* __ARM_NEON_FP */
...

From this point of view, this is wrong and should be fixed to check
a different constant.

> 	ifeq ($(CONFIG_RTE_ARCH_ARM_NEON),y)                                                                             
> 	MACHINE_CFLAGS += -mfpu=neon
> 	endif

However, there is another possible way of understanding these options.
We can (well, unlikely and I am about to say 'never') have an ARM
processor without NEON. This cannot be detected by gcc as it does not
know the target processor... So from my point of view:

* CONFIG_RTE_ARCH_ARM_NEON says "my CPU does (not) support NEON" or "I
  want to enable/disable NEON" while
* RTE_MACHINE_CPUFLAG_NEON says, the _compiler_ supports NEON

I'll send a patch trying to solve this.

Regards
Jan

  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-03-18 11:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-03-03 17:23 [dpdk-dev] [PATCH] " Tomasz Kulasek
2016-03-07  6:19 ` Xu, Qian Q
2016-03-08 12:58 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2] " Tomasz Kulasek
2016-03-11 11:14   ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-03-11 12:28     ` Kulasek, TomaszX
2016-03-11 12:10   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3] " Tomasz Kulasek
2016-03-11 16:23     ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-03-11 17:48       ` Kulasek, TomaszX
2016-03-15 14:31         ` Kulasek, TomaszX
2016-03-15 14:49           ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-03-15 16:06             ` Kulasek, TomaszX
2016-03-15 19:42               ` [dpdk-dev] Odp.: " Czekaj, Maciej
2016-03-18  9:36     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4] " Tomasz Kulasek
2016-03-18  9:43       ` Kulasek, TomaszX
2016-03-18  9:52       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5] " Tomasz Kulasek
2016-03-18 10:04         ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-03-18 10:52           ` Jerin Jacob
2016-03-18 11:00             ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-03-18 11:16               ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH] examples/l3fwd: prefer probed NEON flag to ARM gcc flag Thomas Monjalon
2016-03-18 11:20                 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2] " Thomas Monjalon
2016-03-18 11:56               ` Jan Viktorin [this message]
2016-03-18 12:45                 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5] examples/l3fwd: em path performance fix Kulasek, TomaszX
2016-03-18 12:50                   ` Jan Viktorin
2016-03-18 13:31         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6] " Tomasz Kulasek
2016-03-21 11:57           ` Thomas Monjalon

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