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From: "Richardson, Bruce" <bruce.richardson@intel.com>
To: Jerin Jacob <jerin.jacob@caviumnetworks.com>
Cc: Olivier Matz <olivier.matz@6wind.com>,
	"dev@dpdk.org" <dev@dpdk.org>,
	"Yigit, Ferruh" <ferruh.yigit@intel.com>,
	"thomas.monjalon@6wind.com" <thomas.monjalon@6wind.com>
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH] mk: optimize directory dependencies
Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2017 13:26:41 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <59AF69C657FD0841A61C55336867B5B035B8DFDE@IRSMSX103.ger.corp.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170124125652.GA7561@localhost.localdomain>



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jerin Jacob [mailto:jerin.jacob@caviumnetworks.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2017 12:57 PM
> To: Richardson, Bruce <bruce.richardson@intel.com>
> Cc: Olivier Matz <olivier.matz@6wind.com>; dev@dpdk.org; Yigit, Ferruh
> <ferruh.yigit@intel.com>; thomas.monjalon@6wind.com
> Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH] mk: optimize directory dependencies
> 
> On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 12:15:06PM +0000, Bruce Richardson wrote:
> > On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 05:10:15PM +0530, Jerin Jacob wrote:
> > > On Mon, Jan 23, 2017 at 06:19:13PM +0100, Olivier Matz wrote:
> > > > Before this patch, the management of dependencies between
> > > > directories had several issues:
> > > >
> > > > - the generation of .depdirs, done at configuration is slow: it can
> take
> > > >   more than one minute on some slow targets (usually ~10s on a
> standard
> > > >   PC).
> > > >
> > > > - for instance, it is possible to expressed a dependency like:
> > > >   - app/foo depends on lib/librte_foo
> > > >   - and lib/librte_foo depends on app/bar
> > > >   But this won't work because the directories are traversed with a
> > > >   depth-first algorithm, so we have to choose between doing 'app'
> before
> > > >   or after 'lib'.
> > > >
> > > > - the script depdirs-rule.sh is too complex.
> > > >
> > > > - we cannot use "make -d" for debug, because the output of make is
> used for
> > > >   the generation of .depdirs.
> > > >
> > > > This patch moves the DEPDIRS-* variables in the upper Makefile,
> > > > making the dependencies much easier to calculate. A DEPDIRS
> > > > variable is still used to process library dependencies in LDLIBS.
> > > >
> > > > After this commit, "make config" is almost immediate.
> > > >
> > > > Signed-off-by: Olivier Matz <olivier.matz@6wind.com>
> > >
> > > Tested both approach on ThunderX. This patch looks better
> > >
> > > Tested-by: Jerin Jacob <jerin.jacob@caviumnetworks.com>
> > >
> > > ➜ [master]GB-2S [dpdk-master] $ time make config
> > > T=arm64-thunderx-linuxapp-gcc Configuration done
> > >
> > > real    0m18.112s
> > > user    0m2.810s
> > > sys     0m0.660s
> > >
> > > ➜ [master]GB-2S [dpdk-master] $ pwclient git-am 19859 Applying patch
> > > #19859 using 'git am'
> > > Description: [dpdk-dev] mk: parallelize make config
> > > Applying: mk: parallelize make config
> > >
> > > ➜ [master]GB-2S [dpdk-master] $ rm -rf build ➜ [master]GB-2S
> > > [dpdk-master] $ time make config T=arm64-thunderx-linuxapp-gcc -j 8
> > > Configuration done
> > >
> > > real    0m2.812s
> > > user    0m3.020s
> > > sys     0m0.870s
> > >
> > > ➜ [master]GB-2S [dpdk-master] $ rm -rf build ➜ [master]GB-2S
> > > [dpdk-master] $ time make config T=arm64-thunderx-linuxapp-gcc -j 16
> > > Configuration done
> > >
> > > real    0m1.748s
> > > user    0m3.040s
> > > sys     0m1.020s
> > >
> > > ➜ [master]GB-2S [dpdk-master] $ rm -rf build ➜ [master]GB-2S
> > > [dpdk-master] $ time make config T=arm64-thunderx-linuxapp-gcc -j 32
> > > Configuration done
> > >
> > > real    0m1.422s
> > > user    0m3.380s
> > > sys     0m1.080s
> > >
> > > ➜ [master]GB-2S [dpdk-master] $ pwclient git-am 19918 Applying patch
> > > #19918 using 'git am'
> > > Description: [dpdk-dev] mk: optimize directory dependencies
> > > Applying: mk: optimize directory dependencies
> > >
> > > ➜ [master]GB-2S [dpdk-master] $ rm -rf build ➜ [master]GB-2S
> > > [dpdk-master] $ time make config T=arm64-thunderx-linuxapp-gcc
> > > Configuration done
> > >
> > > real    0m0.064s
> > > user    0m0.000s
> > > sys     0m0.000s
> > > ➜ [master]GB-2S [dpdk-master] $ rm -rf build ➜ [master]GB-2S
> > > [dpdk-master] $ time make config T=arm64-thunderx-linuxapp-gcc -j 8
> > > Configuration done
> > >
> > > real    0m0.055s
> > > user    0m0.000s
> > > sys     0m0.000s
> > >
> >
> > I agree that Olivier's patch is faster. However, I think I prefer
> > having the library dependencies in the makefiles for the libs
> > themselves rather than up a level. Given that we are only looking at
> > ~2second of a difference here in your tests - assuming -j flag - what
> > is the actual build time differences? My suspicion is that after
> > Ferruh's simpler
> 
> Without patch - 18sec
> With patch -j1 - 18 sec
> With patch -j2 - 9.2 sec
> With patch -j4 - 4.9 sec
> With patch -j8 - 2.8 sec
> With patch -j16 - 1.7 sec
> With patch -j32 - 1.4 sec
> 
> > patch is applied, the config time becomes such a small part of the
> > build, that the extra benefits from Oliviers work is not worth the
> > extra complexity.
> 
> The low-end embedded SoCs (SoC with 2 to 4 cores) will be get benefited
> out of bring this extra complexity.My take is, if it is manageable
> complexity then take the most optimized one.

Ok. Point taken for the lower-core count parts.

Thomas - can at least one of these patches be merged into 17.02, since it will definitely help us developers? [If Olivier's is too big a change at this point in the cycle, can Ferruh's be taken as an intermediate fix for this release before merging Olivier's in 17.05?]

Regards,
/Bruce

  reply	other threads:[~2017-01-24 13:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-01-22  1:50 [dpdk-dev] [PATCH] mk: parallelize make config Ferruh Yigit
2017-01-23 17:18 ` Olivier Matz
2017-01-23 17:19   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH] mk: optimize directory dependencies Olivier Matz
2017-01-24 11:19     ` Robin Jarry
2017-01-24 11:26       ` Bruce Richardson
2017-01-24 12:31         ` Robin Jarry
2017-01-24 11:40     ` Jerin Jacob
2017-01-24 12:15       ` Bruce Richardson
2017-01-24 12:56         ` Jerin Jacob
2017-01-24 13:26           ` Richardson, Bruce [this message]
2017-01-24 14:50             ` Olivier MATZ
2017-01-24 14:55               ` Wiles, Keith
2017-03-01 11:25                 ` Thomas Monjalon
2017-03-01 12:10                   ` Bruce Richardson
2017-03-01 12:30                   ` Olivier Matz
2017-01-24 13:05     ` Ferruh Yigit
2017-03-17 17:13     ` Olivier Matz
2017-03-17 17:47       ` Robin Jarry
2017-03-20  8:31         ` Olivier Matz
2017-03-24 13:21       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2] " Olivier Matz
2017-03-27 21:33         ` Thomas Monjalon
2017-03-28 10:34         ` Ferruh Yigit
2017-03-30  8:51           ` Olivier Matz
2017-03-30  9:27             ` Ferruh Yigit
2017-03-30 12:11               ` Olivier Matz
2017-03-30 12:32                 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH] mk: fix dependencies to optional configs Olivier Matz
2017-03-30 12:37                   ` Ferruh Yigit
2017-03-30 13:37                     ` Thomas Monjalon
2017-01-23 17:50   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH] mk: parallelize make config Wiles, Keith
2017-01-24  8:42     ` Olivier MATZ
2017-01-24 10:02       ` Bruce Richardson
2017-01-23 19:03 ` Michał Mirosław
2017-01-30  9:41   ` Ferruh Yigit
2017-01-24 10:52 ` Bruce Richardson
2017-01-29 15:29 ` Thomas Monjalon
2017-01-30  9:46   ` Ferruh Yigit
2017-01-30 10:21 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2] " Ferruh Yigit
2017-01-30 18:13   ` Thomas Monjalon

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