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* [PATCH] eal: fix alignment of RISCV xmm vector type
@ 2023-11-15 21:16 Tyler Retzlaff
  2023-11-15 21:31 ` Morten Brørup
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Tyler Retzlaff @ 2023-11-15 21:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: dev; +Cc: Michal Mazurek, Stanislaw Kardach, mb, Tyler Retzlaff, stable

Fix the alignment for rte_xmm_t it should be 16 instead of 8 bytes.

Fixes: f22e705ebf12 ("eal/riscv: support RISC-V architecture")
Cc: maz@semihalf.com
Cc: stable@dpdk.org
Signed-off-by: Tyler Retzlaff <roretzla@linux.microsoft.com>
---
 lib/eal/riscv/include/rte_vect.h | 2 +-
 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)

diff --git a/lib/eal/riscv/include/rte_vect.h b/lib/eal/riscv/include/rte_vect.h
index 2f97f43..da9092a 100644
--- a/lib/eal/riscv/include/rte_vect.h
+++ b/lib/eal/riscv/include/rte_vect.h
@@ -29,7 +29,7 @@
 	uint32_t	u32[XMM_SIZE / sizeof(uint32_t)];
 	uint64_t	u64[XMM_SIZE / sizeof(uint64_t)];
 	double		pd[XMM_SIZE / sizeof(double)];
-} __rte_aligned(8) rte_xmm_t;
+} __rte_aligned(16) rte_xmm_t;
 
 static inline xmm_t
 vect_load_128(void *p)
-- 
1.8.3.1


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* RE: [PATCH] eal: fix alignment of RISCV xmm vector type
  2023-11-15 21:16 [PATCH] eal: fix alignment of RISCV xmm vector type Tyler Retzlaff
@ 2023-11-15 21:31 ` Morten Brørup
  2023-11-15 23:20   ` Stanisław Kardach
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Morten Brørup @ 2023-11-15 21:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Tyler Retzlaff, dev, Stanislaw Kardach; +Cc: Michal Mazurek, stable

> From: Tyler Retzlaff [mailto:roretzla@linux.microsoft.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, 15 November 2023 22.17
> 
> Fix the alignment for rte_xmm_t it should be 16 instead of 8 bytes.
> 
> Fixes: f22e705ebf12 ("eal/riscv: support RISC-V architecture")
> Cc: maz@semihalf.com
> Cc: stable@dpdk.org
> Signed-off-by: Tyler Retzlaff <roretzla@linux.microsoft.com>
> ---

Reviewed-by: Morten Brørup <mb@smartsharesystems.com>

As mentioned in the other thread:

We need to urgently decide if this bug should live on in DPDK 23.11, or if the fix should be included although we are very late in the release process.

Stanislaw, what do you think?

Furthermore, I wonder if it can be backported to stable, and to what extent backporting it would break the ABI/API.


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* Re: [PATCH] eal: fix alignment of RISCV xmm vector type
  2023-11-15 21:31 ` Morten Brørup
@ 2023-11-15 23:20   ` Stanisław Kardach
  2023-11-16  7:45     ` Morten Brørup
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Stanisław Kardach @ 2023-11-15 23:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Morten Brørup; +Cc: Tyler Retzlaff, dev, Michal Mazurek, stable

On Wed, Nov 15, 2023 at 10:31 PM Morten Brørup <mb@smartsharesystems.com> wrote:
>
> > From: Tyler Retzlaff [mailto:roretzla@linux.microsoft.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, 15 November 2023 22.17
> >
> > Fix the alignment for rte_xmm_t it should be 16 instead of 8 bytes.
> >
> > Fixes: f22e705ebf12 ("eal/riscv: support RISC-V architecture")
> > Cc: maz@semihalf.com
> > Cc: stable@dpdk.org
> > Signed-off-by: Tyler Retzlaff <roretzla@linux.microsoft.com>
> > ---
>
> Reviewed-by: Morten Brørup <mb@smartsharesystems.com>
>
> As mentioned in the other thread:
>
> We need to urgently decide if this bug should live on in DPDK 23.11, or if the fix should be included although we are very late in the release process.
>
> Stanislaw, what do you think?
Good catch! As for backporting I'm not sure of the urgency given that
our examples still use scalar instructions for handling xmm_t. The
question is whether there is a platform in use which has vector
extensions enabled and that utilizes DPDK. I'm not that sure of it
though I'd be happy to be proven wrong.

Reviewed-by: Stanislaw Kardach <kda@semihalf.com>

>
> Furthermore, I wonder if it can be backported to stable, and to what extent backporting it would break the ABI/API.
>


--
Best Regards,
Stanisław Kardach

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* RE: [PATCH] eal: fix alignment of RISCV xmm vector type
  2023-11-15 23:20   ` Stanisław Kardach
@ 2023-11-16  7:45     ` Morten Brørup
  2023-11-17 10:54       ` Bruce Richardson
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Morten Brørup @ 2023-11-16  7:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Stanisław Kardach, bruce.richardson
  Cc: Tyler Retzlaff, dev, Michal Mazurek, stable

> From: Stanisław Kardach [mailto:kda@semihalf.com]
> Sent: Thursday, 16 November 2023 00.21
> 
> On Wed, Nov 15, 2023 at 10:31 PM Morten Brørup
> <mb@smartsharesystems.com> wrote:
> >
> > > From: Tyler Retzlaff [mailto:roretzla@linux.microsoft.com]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, 15 November 2023 22.17
> > >
> > > Fix the alignment for rte_xmm_t it should be 16 instead of 8 bytes.
> > >
> > > Fixes: f22e705ebf12 ("eal/riscv: support RISC-V architecture")
> > > Cc: maz@semihalf.com
> > > Cc: stable@dpdk.org
> > > Signed-off-by: Tyler Retzlaff <roretzla@linux.microsoft.com>
> > > ---
> >
> > Reviewed-by: Morten Brørup <mb@smartsharesystems.com>
> >
> > As mentioned in the other thread:
> >
> > We need to urgently decide if this bug should live on in DPDK 23.11,
> or if the fix should be included although we are very late in the
> release process.
> >
> > Stanislaw, what do you think?
> Good catch! As for backporting I'm not sure of the urgency given that
> our examples still use scalar instructions for handling xmm_t. The
> question is whether there is a platform in use which has vector
> extensions enabled and that utilizes DPDK. I'm not that sure of it
> though I'd be happy to be proven wrong.

Can we extrapolate this, and also conclude that postponing this bugfix until the next ABI/API breaking release, DPDK 24.11, is not really going to hurt anyone?

Stanislaw, please confirm?

Bruce, I don't feel 100 % confident in making this postponement recommendation. Could you please provide a second opinion regarding the timing of fixing this bug? Or rather: do you have any strong arguments *against* postponing it to DPDK 24.11?

> 
> Reviewed-by: Stanislaw Kardach <kda@semihalf.com>
> 
> >
> > Furthermore, I wonder if it can be backported to stable, and to what
> extent backporting it would break the ABI/API.

Based on your input regarding the current deployment status, backporting the bugfix clearly isn't worth the effort. Excellent!

> >
> 
> 
> --
> Best Regards,
> Stanisław Kardach

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* Re: [PATCH] eal: fix alignment of RISCV xmm vector type
  2023-11-16  7:45     ` Morten Brørup
@ 2023-11-17 10:54       ` Bruce Richardson
  2023-11-17 11:18         ` Morten Brørup
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Bruce Richardson @ 2023-11-17 10:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Morten Brørup
  Cc: Stanisław Kardach, Tyler Retzlaff, dev, Michal Mazurek, stable

On Thu, Nov 16, 2023 at 08:45:35AM +0100, Morten Brørup wrote:
> > From: Stanisław Kardach [mailto:kda@semihalf.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, 16 November 2023 00.21
> > 
> > On Wed, Nov 15, 2023 at 10:31 PM Morten Brørup
> > <mb@smartsharesystems.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > From: Tyler Retzlaff [mailto:roretzla@linux.microsoft.com]
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, 15 November 2023 22.17
> > > >
> > > > Fix the alignment for rte_xmm_t it should be 16 instead of 8 bytes.
> > > >
> > > > Fixes: f22e705ebf12 ("eal/riscv: support RISC-V architecture")
> > > > Cc: maz@semihalf.com
> > > > Cc: stable@dpdk.org
> > > > Signed-off-by: Tyler Retzlaff <roretzla@linux.microsoft.com>
> > > > ---
> > >
> > > Reviewed-by: Morten Brørup <mb@smartsharesystems.com>
> > >
> > > As mentioned in the other thread:
> > >
> > > We need to urgently decide if this bug should live on in DPDK 23.11,
> > or if the fix should be included although we are very late in the
> > release process.
> > >
> > > Stanislaw, what do you think?
> > Good catch! As for backporting I'm not sure of the urgency given that
> > our examples still use scalar instructions for handling xmm_t. The
> > question is whether there is a platform in use which has vector
> > extensions enabled and that utilizes DPDK. I'm not that sure of it
> > though I'd be happy to be proven wrong.
> 
> Can we extrapolate this, and also conclude that postponing this bugfix until the next ABI/API breaking release, DPDK 24.11, is not really going to hurt anyone?
> 
> Stanislaw, please confirm?
> 
> Bruce, I don't feel 100 % confident in making this postponement recommendation. Could you please provide a second opinion regarding the timing of fixing this bug? Or rather: do you have any strong arguments *against* postponing it to DPDK 24.11?
> 

Not sure I'm any better placed to make an argument either way! However, I
would very much tend to say that we should include this in 23.11, on the
basis that if it turns out to be important we can't backport it later
without affecting ABI. Right now, the code looks broken to me, and I'm also
struggling to find circumstances where increasing the alignment will
actually stop something from working. There could well be performance
implications of having extra padding, but things should still work, AFAIK.
On the other hand, if we don't include the fix, it is possible that a
system (possibly a future one) could break and segfault due to incorrect
vector code. I'd take a possible slowdown over a segfault!

Is my assessment correct, or perhaps I'm missing some detail.

/Bruce

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* RE: [PATCH] eal: fix alignment of RISCV xmm vector type
  2023-11-17 10:54       ` Bruce Richardson
@ 2023-11-17 11:18         ` Morten Brørup
  2023-11-18  8:04           ` Thomas Monjalon
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Morten Brørup @ 2023-11-17 11:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Bruce Richardson, Stanisław Kardach
  Cc: Tyler Retzlaff, dev, Michal Mazurek, stable, thomas

+CC Thomas, this patch is ready to be applied to 23.11.

> From: Bruce Richardson [mailto:bruce.richardson@intel.com]
> Sent: Friday, 17 November 2023 11.55
> 
> On Thu, Nov 16, 2023 at 08:45:35AM +0100, Morten Brørup wrote:
> > > From: Stanisław Kardach [mailto:kda@semihalf.com]
> > > Sent: Thursday, 16 November 2023 00.21
> > >
> > > On Wed, Nov 15, 2023 at 10:31 PM Morten Brørup
> > > <mb@smartsharesystems.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > From: Tyler Retzlaff [mailto:roretzla@linux.microsoft.com]
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, 15 November 2023 22.17
> > > > >
> > > > > Fix the alignment for rte_xmm_t it should be 16 instead of 8
> bytes.
> > > > >
> > > > > Fixes: f22e705ebf12 ("eal/riscv: support RISC-V architecture")
> > > > > Cc: maz@semihalf.com
> > > > > Cc: stable@dpdk.org
> > > > > Signed-off-by: Tyler Retzlaff <roretzla@linux.microsoft.com>
> > > > > ---
> > > >
> > > > Reviewed-by: Morten Brørup <mb@smartsharesystems.com>
> > > >
> > > > As mentioned in the other thread:
> > > >
> > > > We need to urgently decide if this bug should live on in DPDK
> 23.11,
> > > or if the fix should be included although we are very late in the
> > > release process.
> > > >
> > > > Stanislaw, what do you think?
> > > Good catch! As for backporting I'm not sure of the urgency given
> that
> > > our examples still use scalar instructions for handling xmm_t. The
> > > question is whether there is a platform in use which has vector
> > > extensions enabled and that utilizes DPDK. I'm not that sure of it
> > > though I'd be happy to be proven wrong.
> >
> > Can we extrapolate this, and also conclude that postponing this
> bugfix until the next ABI/API breaking release, DPDK 24.11, is not
> really going to hurt anyone?
> >
> > Stanislaw, please confirm?
> >
> > Bruce, I don't feel 100 % confident in making this postponement
> recommendation. Could you please provide a second opinion regarding the
> timing of fixing this bug? Or rather: do you have any strong arguments
> *against* postponing it to DPDK 24.11?
> >
> 
> Not sure I'm any better placed to make an argument either way!

Bruce, I picked you because of your experience with vector code.

> However, I
> would very much tend to say that we should include this in 23.11, on
> the
> basis that if it turns out to be important we can't backport it later
> without affecting ABI. Right now, the code looks broken to me, and I'm
> also
> struggling to find circumstances where increasing the alignment will
> actually stop something from working. There could well be performance
> implications of having extra padding, but things should still work,
> AFAIK.
> On the other hand, if we don't include the fix, it is possible that a
> system (possibly a future one) could break and segfault due to
> incorrect
> vector code. I'd take a possible slowdown over a segfault!

The risk of slowdown isn't a factor for me at this stage.

I'm trying to balance the risk of fixing the bug vs. breaking something this late in the 23.11 release cycle.

You have a strong point that we also need to consider the bugfix in the context of the total lifetime of DPDK 23.11 in the wild.
With RISC-V's current traction, that certainly speaks in favor of including it in 23.11.

> 
> Is my assessment correct, or perhaps I'm missing some detail.

Thank you for your valuable feedback, Bruce.

I was just being overly cautious... After all, 23.11 is still at a stage where bug fixes are accepted!

New conclusion: Let's get it into 23.11.


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* Re: [PATCH] eal: fix alignment of RISCV xmm vector type
  2023-11-17 11:18         ` Morten Brørup
@ 2023-11-18  8:04           ` Thomas Monjalon
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Thomas Monjalon @ 2023-11-18  8:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Bruce Richardson, Stanisław Kardach, Tyler Retzlaff,
	Morten Brørup
  Cc: dev, Michal Mazurek, stable

17/11/2023 12:18, Morten Brørup:
> +CC Thomas, this patch is ready to be applied to 23.11.
> 
> > From: Bruce Richardson [mailto:bruce.richardson@intel.com]
> > Sent: Friday, 17 November 2023 11.55
> > 
> > On Thu, Nov 16, 2023 at 08:45:35AM +0100, Morten Brørup wrote:
> > > > From: Stanisław Kardach [mailto:kda@semihalf.com]
> > > > Sent: Thursday, 16 November 2023 00.21
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Nov 15, 2023 at 10:31 PM Morten Brørup
> > > > <mb@smartsharesystems.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > From: Tyler Retzlaff [mailto:roretzla@linux.microsoft.com]
> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, 15 November 2023 22.17
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Fix the alignment for rte_xmm_t it should be 16 instead of 8
> > bytes.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Fixes: f22e705ebf12 ("eal/riscv: support RISC-V architecture")
> > > > > > Cc: maz@semihalf.com
> > > > > > Cc: stable@dpdk.org
> > > > > > Signed-off-by: Tyler Retzlaff <roretzla@linux.microsoft.com>
> > > > > > ---
> > > > >
> > > > > Reviewed-by: Morten Brørup <mb@smartsharesystems.com>
> > > > >
> > > > > As mentioned in the other thread:
> > > > >
> > > > > We need to urgently decide if this bug should live on in DPDK
> > 23.11,
> > > > or if the fix should be included although we are very late in the
> > > > release process.
> > > > >
> > > > > Stanislaw, what do you think?
> > > > Good catch! As for backporting I'm not sure of the urgency given
> > that
> > > > our examples still use scalar instructions for handling xmm_t. The
> > > > question is whether there is a platform in use which has vector
> > > > extensions enabled and that utilizes DPDK. I'm not that sure of it
> > > > though I'd be happy to be proven wrong.
> > >
> > > Can we extrapolate this, and also conclude that postponing this
> > bugfix until the next ABI/API breaking release, DPDK 24.11, is not
> > really going to hurt anyone?
> > >
> > > Stanislaw, please confirm?
> > >
> > > Bruce, I don't feel 100 % confident in making this postponement
> > recommendation. Could you please provide a second opinion regarding the
> > timing of fixing this bug? Or rather: do you have any strong arguments
> > *against* postponing it to DPDK 24.11?
> > >
> > 
> > Not sure I'm any better placed to make an argument either way!
> 
> Bruce, I picked you because of your experience with vector code.
> 
> > However, I
> > would very much tend to say that we should include this in 23.11, on
> > the
> > basis that if it turns out to be important we can't backport it later
> > without affecting ABI. Right now, the code looks broken to me, and I'm
> > also
> > struggling to find circumstances where increasing the alignment will
> > actually stop something from working. There could well be performance
> > implications of having extra padding, but things should still work,
> > AFAIK.
> > On the other hand, if we don't include the fix, it is possible that a
> > system (possibly a future one) could break and segfault due to
> > incorrect
> > vector code. I'd take a possible slowdown over a segfault!
> 
> The risk of slowdown isn't a factor for me at this stage.
> 
> I'm trying to balance the risk of fixing the bug vs. breaking something this late in the 23.11 release cycle.
> 
> You have a strong point that we also need to consider the bugfix in the context of the total lifetime of DPDK 23.11 in the wild.
> With RISC-V's current traction, that certainly speaks in favor of including it in 23.11.
> 
> > 
> > Is my assessment correct, or perhaps I'm missing some detail.
> 
> Thank you for your valuable feedback, Bruce.
> 
> I was just being overly cautious... After all, 23.11 is still at a stage where bug fixes are accepted!
> 
> New conclusion: Let's get it into 23.11.

Applied, thanks.

I've kept CC:stable as it is a real fix.
I don't see a problem in breaking API/ABI for RISC-V which is quite new.
Anyway stable maintainers will choose what to do.



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