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From: Thomas Monjalon <thomas@monjalon.net>
To: "Anatoly Burakov" <anatoly.burakov@intel.com>,
	"Morten Brørup" <mb@smartsharesystems.com>
Cc: dev@dpdk.org, Bruce Richardson <bruce.richardson@intel.com>,
	Nicolas Chautru <nicolas.chautru@intel.com>,
	Fan Zhang <roy.fan.zhang@intel.com>,
	Ashish Gupta <ashish.gupta@marvell.com>,
	Akhil Goyal <gakhil@marvell.com>,
	David Hunt <david.hunt@intel.com>,
	Chengwen Feng <fengchengwen@huawei.com>,
	Kevin Laatz <kevin.laatz@intel.com>, Ray Kinsella <mdr@ashroe.eu>,
	Ferruh Yigit <ferruh.yigit@xilinx.com>,
	Andrew Rybchenko <andrew.rybchenko@oktetlabs.ru>,
	Jerin Jacob <jerinj@marvell.com>,
	Sachin Saxena <sachin.saxena@oss.nxp.com>,
	Hemant Agrawal <hemant.agrawal@nxp.com>,
	Ori Kam <orika@nvidia.com>,
	Honnappa Nagarahalli <honnappa.nagarahalli@arm.com>,
	Konstantin Ananyev <konstantin.v.ananyev@yandex.ru>,
	Conor Walsh <conor.walsh@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 1/2] eal: add lcore busyness telemetry
Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2022 16:38:27 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8128978.NyiUUSuA9g@thomas> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <98CBD80474FA8B44BF855DF32C47DC35D871CC@smartserver.smartshare.dk>

16/07/2022 00:13, Morten Brørup:
> > From: Anatoly Burakov [mailto:anatoly.burakov@intel.com]
> > Sent: Friday, 15 July 2022 15.13
> > 
> > Currently, there is no way to measure lcore busyness in a passive way,
> > without any modifications to the application. This patch adds a new EAL
> > API that will be able to passively track core busyness.
> > 
> > The busyness is calculated by relying on the fact that most DPDK API's
> > will poll for packets.
> 
> This is an "alternative fact"! Only run-to-completion applications polls for RX. Pipelined applications do not poll for packets in every pipeline stage.
> 
> > Empty polls can be counted as "idle", while
> > non-empty polls can be counted as busy. To measure lcore busyness, we
> > simply call the telemetry timestamping function with the number of
> > polls
> > a particular code section has processed, and count the number of cycles
> > we've spent processing empty bursts. The more empty bursts we
> > encounter,
> > the less cycles we spend in "busy" state, and the less core busyness
> > will be reported.
> > 
> > In order for all of the above to work without modifications to the
> > application, the library code needs to be instrumented with calls to
> > the lcore telemetry busyness timestamping function. The following parts
> > of DPDK are instrumented with lcore telemetry calls:
> > 
> > - All major driver API's:
> >   - ethdev
> >   - cryptodev
> >   - compressdev
> >   - regexdev
> >   - bbdev
> >   - rawdev
> >   - eventdev
> >   - dmadev
> > - Some additional libraries:
> >   - ring
> >   - distributor
> > 
> > To avoid performance impact from having lcore telemetry support, a
> > global variable is exported by EAL, and a call to timestamping function
> > is wrapped into a macro, so that whenever telemetry is disabled, it
> > only
> > takes one additional branch and no function calls are performed. It is
> > also possible to disable it at compile time by commenting out
> > RTE_LCORE_BUSYNESS from build config.
> 
> Since all of this can be completely disabled at build time, and thus has exactly zero performance impact, I will not object to this patch.
> 
> > 
> > This patch also adds a telemetry endpoint to report lcore busyness, as
> > well as telemetry endpoints to enable/disable lcore telemetry.
> > 
> > Signed-off-by: Kevin Laatz <kevin.laatz@intel.com>
> > Signed-off-by: Conor Walsh <conor.walsh@intel.com>
> > Signed-off-by: David Hunt <david.hunt@intel.com>
> > Signed-off-by: Anatoly Burakov <anatoly.burakov@intel.com>
> > ---
> > 
> > Notes:
> >     We did a couple of quick smoke tests to see if this patch causes
> > any performance
> >     degradation, and it seemed to have none that we could measure.
> > Telemetry can be
> >     disabled at compile time via a config option, while at runtime it
> > can be
> >     disabled, seemingly at a cost of one additional branch.
> > 
> >     That said, our benchmarking efforts were admittedly not very
> > rigorous, so
> >     comments welcome!
> 
> This patch does not reflect lcore business, it reflects some sort of ingress activity level.
> 
> All the considerations regarding non-intrusiveness and low overhead are good, but everything in this patch needs to be renamed to reflect what it truly does, so it is clear that pipelined applications cannot use this telemetry for measuring lcore business (except on the ingress pipeline stage).

+1
Anatoly, please reflect polling activity in naming.

> It's a shame that so much effort clearly has gone into this patch, and no one stopped to consider pipelined applications. :-(

That's because no RFC was sent I think.



  reply	other threads:[~2022-07-16 14:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 87+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-07-15 13:12 Anatoly Burakov
2022-07-15 13:12 ` [PATCH v1 2/2] eal: add cpuset lcore telemetry entries Anatoly Burakov
2022-07-15 13:35 ` [PATCH v1 1/2] eal: add lcore busyness telemetry Burakov, Anatoly
2022-07-15 13:46 ` Jerin Jacob
2022-07-15 14:11   ` Bruce Richardson
2022-07-15 14:18   ` Burakov, Anatoly
2022-07-15 22:13 ` Morten Brørup
2022-07-16 14:38   ` Thomas Monjalon [this message]
2022-07-17  3:10   ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2022-07-17  9:56     ` Morten Brørup
2022-07-18  9:43       ` Burakov, Anatoly
2022-07-18 10:59         ` Morten Brørup
2022-07-19 12:20           ` Thomas Monjalon
2022-07-18 15:46         ` Stephen Hemminger
2022-08-24 16:24 ` [PATCH v2 0/3] Add lcore poll " Kevin Laatz
2022-08-24 16:24   ` [PATCH v2 1/3] eal: add " Kevin Laatz
2022-08-24 16:24   ` [PATCH v2 2/3] eal: add cpuset lcore telemetry entries Kevin Laatz
2022-08-24 16:24   ` [PATCH v2 3/3] doc: add howto guide for lcore poll busyness Kevin Laatz
2022-08-25  7:47   ` [PATCH v2 0/3] Add lcore poll busyness telemetry Morten Brørup
2022-08-25 10:53     ` Kevin Laatz
2022-08-25 15:28 ` [PATCH v3 " Kevin Laatz
2022-08-25 15:28   ` [PATCH v3 1/3] eal: add " Kevin Laatz
2022-08-26  7:05     ` Jerin Jacob
2022-08-26  8:07       ` Bruce Richardson
2022-08-26  8:16         ` Jerin Jacob
2022-08-26  8:29           ` Morten Brørup
2022-08-26 15:27             ` Kevin Laatz
2022-08-26 15:46               ` Morten Brørup
2022-08-29 10:41                 ` Bruce Richardson
2022-08-29 10:53                   ` Thomas Monjalon
2022-08-29 12:36                     ` Kevin Laatz
2022-08-29 12:49                       ` Morten Brørup
2022-08-29 13:37                         ` Kevin Laatz
2022-08-29 13:44                           ` Morten Brørup
2022-08-29 14:21                             ` Kevin Laatz
2022-08-29 11:22                   ` Morten Brørup
2022-08-26 22:06     ` Mattias Rönnblom
2022-08-29  8:23       ` Bruce Richardson
2022-08-29 13:16       ` Kevin Laatz
2022-08-30 10:26       ` Kevin Laatz
2022-08-25 15:28   ` [PATCH v3 2/3] eal: add cpuset lcore telemetry entries Kevin Laatz
2022-08-25 15:28   ` [PATCH v3 3/3] doc: add howto guide for lcore poll busyness Kevin Laatz
2022-09-01 14:39 ` [PATCH v4 0/3] Add lcore poll busyness telemetry Kevin Laatz
2022-09-01 14:39   ` [PATCH v4 1/3] eal: add " Kevin Laatz
2022-09-01 14:39   ` [PATCH v4 2/3] eal: add cpuset lcore telemetry entries Kevin Laatz
2022-09-01 14:39   ` [PATCH v4 3/3] doc: add howto guide for lcore poll busyness Kevin Laatz
2022-09-02 15:58 ` [PATCH v5 0/3] Add lcore poll busyness telemetry Kevin Laatz
2022-09-02 15:58   ` [PATCH v5 1/3] eal: add " Kevin Laatz
2022-09-03 13:33     ` Jerin Jacob
2022-09-06  9:37       ` Kevin Laatz
2022-09-02 15:58   ` [PATCH v5 2/3] eal: add cpuset lcore telemetry entries Kevin Laatz
2022-09-02 15:58   ` [PATCH v5 3/3] doc: add howto guide for lcore poll busyness Kevin Laatz
2022-09-13 13:19 ` [PATCH v6 0/4] Add lcore poll busyness telemetry Kevin Laatz
2022-09-13 13:19   ` [PATCH v6 1/4] eal: add " Kevin Laatz
2022-09-13 13:48     ` Morten Brørup
2022-09-13 13:19   ` [PATCH v6 2/4] eal: add cpuset lcore telemetry entries Kevin Laatz
2022-09-13 13:19   ` [PATCH v6 3/4] app/test: add unit tests for lcore poll busyness Kevin Laatz
2022-09-13 13:19   ` [PATCH v6 4/4] doc: add howto guide " Kevin Laatz
2022-09-14  9:29 ` [PATCH v7 0/4] Add lcore poll busyness telemetry Kevin Laatz
2022-09-14  9:29   ` [PATCH v7 1/4] eal: add " Kevin Laatz
2022-09-14 14:30     ` Stephen Hemminger
2022-09-16 12:35       ` Kevin Laatz
2022-09-19 10:19     ` Konstantin Ananyev
2022-09-22 17:14       ` Kevin Laatz
2022-09-26  9:37         ` Konstantin Ananyev
2022-09-29 12:41           ` Kevin Laatz
2022-09-30 12:32             ` Jerin Jacob
2022-10-01 14:17             ` Konstantin Ananyev
2022-10-03 20:02               ` Mattias Rönnblom
2022-10-04  9:15                 ` Morten Brørup
2022-10-04 11:57                   ` Bruce Richardson
2022-10-04 14:26                     ` Mattias Rönnblom
2022-10-04 23:30                     ` Konstantin Ananyev
2022-09-30 22:13     ` Mattias Rönnblom
2022-09-14  9:29   ` [PATCH v7 2/4] eal: add cpuset lcore telemetry entries Kevin Laatz
2022-09-14  9:29   ` [PATCH v7 3/4] app/test: add unit tests for lcore poll busyness Kevin Laatz
2022-09-30 22:20     ` Mattias Rönnblom
2022-09-14  9:29   ` [PATCH v7 4/4] doc: add howto guide " Kevin Laatz
2022-09-14 14:33   ` [PATCH v7 0/4] Add lcore poll busyness telemetry Stephen Hemminger
2022-09-16 12:35     ` Kevin Laatz
2022-09-16 14:10       ` Kevin Laatz
2022-10-05 13:44   ` Kevin Laatz
2022-10-06 13:25     ` Morten Brørup
2022-10-06 15:26       ` Mattias Rönnblom
2022-10-10 15:22         ` Morten Brørup
2022-10-10 17:38           ` Mattias Rönnblom
2022-10-12 12:25             ` Morten Brørup

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