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From: "Dumitrescu, Cristian" <cristian.dumitrescu@intel.com>
To: Ori Kam <orika@nvidia.com>, Matan Azrad <matan@nvidia.com>,
	Li Zhang <lizh@nvidia.com>, Dekel Peled <dekelp@nvidia.com>,
	Slava Ovsiienko <viacheslavo@nvidia.com>,
	Shahaf Shuler <shahafs@nvidia.com>,
	"lironh@marvell.com" <lironh@marvell.com>,
	"Singh, Jasvinder" <jasvinder.singh@intel.com>,
	NBU-Contact-Thomas Monjalon <thomas@monjalon.net>,
	"Yigit, Ferruh" <ferruh.yigit@intel.com>,
	"Andrew Rybchenko" <andrew.rybchenko@oktetlabs.ru>,
	Jerin Jacob <jerinjacobk@gmail.com>,
	Hemant Agrawal <hemant.agrawal@nxp.com>,
	"Ajit Khaparde" <ajit.khaparde@broadcom.com>
Cc: "dev@dpdk.org" <dev@dpdk.org>,
	Raslan Darawsheh <rasland@nvidia.com>,
	"Roni Bar Yanai" <roniba@nvidia.com>
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 1/2] [RFC]: ethdev: add pre-defined meter policy API
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2021 16:24:17 +0000	[thread overview]
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Hi Ori,

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ori Kam <orika@nvidia.com>
> Sent: Monday, March 29, 2021 10:23 AM
> To: Matan Azrad <matan@nvidia.com>; Dumitrescu, Cristian
> <cristian.dumitrescu@intel.com>; Li Zhang <lizh@nvidia.com>; Dekel Peled
> <dekelp@nvidia.com>; Slava Ovsiienko <viacheslavo@nvidia.com>; Shahaf
> Shuler <shahafs@nvidia.com>; lironh@marvell.com; Singh, Jasvinder
> <jasvinder.singh@intel.com>; NBU-Contact-Thomas Monjalon
> <thomas@monjalon.net>; Yigit, Ferruh <ferruh.yigit@intel.com>; Andrew
> Rybchenko <andrew.rybchenko@oktetlabs.ru>; Jerin Jacob
> <jerinjacobk@gmail.com>; Hemant Agrawal <hemant.agrawal@nxp.com>;
> Ajit Khaparde <ajit.khaparde@broadcom.com>
> Cc: dev@dpdk.org; Raslan Darawsheh <rasland@nvidia.com>; Roni Bar Yanai
> <roniba@nvidia.com>
> Subject: RE: [PATCH 1/2] [RFC]: ethdev: add pre-defined meter policy API
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Matan Azrad <matan@nvidia.com>
> > Subject: RE: [PATCH 1/2] [RFC]: ethdev: add pre-defined meter policy API
> >
> > Hi Cristian
> >
> > Thank you for your important review!
> > I agree with all your comments except one, please see inline.
> >
> > From: Dumitrescu, Cristian
> > > Hi Li and Matan,
> > >
> > > Thank you for your proposal, some comments below.
> > >
> > > I am also adding Jerin and Hemant to this thread, as they also participated
> in
> > > the definition of the rte_mtr API in 2017. Also Ajit expressed some
> interest in
> > a
> > > previous email.
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Li Zhang <lizh@nvidia.com>
> > > > Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2021 8:58 AM
> > > > To: dekelp@nvidia.com; orika@nvidia.com; viacheslavo@nvidia.com;
> > > > matan@nvidia.com; shahafs@nvidia.com; lironh@marvell.com; Singh,
> > > > Jasvinder <jasvinder.singh@intel.com>; Thomas Monjalon
> > > > <thomas@monjalon.net>; Yigit, Ferruh <ferruh.yigit@intel.com>;
> Andrew
> > > > Rybchenko <andrew.rybchenko@oktetlabs.ru>; Dumitrescu, Cristian
> > > > <cristian.dumitrescu@intel.com>
> > > > Cc: dev@dpdk.org; rasland@nvidia.com; roniba@nvidia.com
> > > > Subject: [PATCH 1/2] [RFC]: ethdev: add pre-defined meter policy API
> > > >
> > > > Currently, the flow meter policy does not support multiple actions per
> > > > color; also the allowed action types per color are very limited.
> > > > In addition, the policy cannot be pre-defined.
> > > >
> > > > Due to the growing in flow actions offload abilities there is a
> > > > potential for the user to use variety of actions per color differently.
> > > > This new meter policy API comes to allow this potential in the most
> > > > ethdev common way using rte_flow action definition.
> > > > A list of rte_flow actions will be provided by the user per color in
> > > > order to create a meter policy.
> > > > In addition, the API forces to pre-define the policy before the meters
> > > > creation in order to allow sharing of single policy with multiple
> > > > meters efficiently.
> > > >
> > > > meter_policy_id is added into struct rte_mtr_params.
> > > > So that it can get the policy during the meters creation.
> > > >
> > > > Policy id 0 is default policy. Action per color as below:
> > > > green - no action, yellow - no action, red - drop
> > > >
> > > > Allow coloring the packet using a new rte_flow_action_color as could
> > > > be done by the old policy API,
> > > >
> > >
> > > The proposal essentially is to define the meter policy based on rte_flow
> > actions
> > > rather than a reduced action set defined specifically just for meter object.
> > This
> > > makes sense to me.
> > >
> > > > The next API function were added:
> > > > - rte_mtr_meter_policy_add
> > > > - rte_mtr_meter_policy_delete
> > > > - rte_mtr_meter_policy_update
> > > > - rte_mtr_meter_policy_validate
> > > > The next struct was changed:
> > > > - rte_mtr_params
> > > > - rte_mtr_capabilities
> > > > The next API was deleted:
> > > > - rte_mtr_policer_actions_update
> > > >
> > > > Signed-off-by: Li Zhang <lizh@nvidia.com>
> > > > ---
> > > >  lib/librte_ethdev/rte_flow.h       |  18 ++++
> > > >  lib/librte_ethdev/rte_mtr.c        |  55 ++++++++--
> > > >  lib/librte_ethdev/rte_mtr.h        | 166 ++++++++++++++++++++---------
> > > >  lib/librte_ethdev/rte_mtr_driver.h |  45 ++++++--
> > > >  4 files changed, 210 insertions(+), 74 deletions(-)
> > > >
> > > > diff --git a/lib/librte_ethdev/rte_flow.h
> > > > b/lib/librte_ethdev/rte_flow.h index 669e677e91..5f38aa7fa4 100644
> > > > --- a/lib/librte_ethdev/rte_flow.h
> > > > +++ b/lib/librte_ethdev/rte_flow.h
> > > > @@ -31,6 +31,7 @@
> > > >  #include <rte_ecpri.h>
> > > >  #include <rte_mbuf.h>
> > > >  #include <rte_mbuf_dyn.h>
> > > > +#include <rte_meter.h>
> > > >
> > > >  #ifdef __cplusplus
> > > >  extern "C" {
> > > > @@ -2236,6 +2237,13 @@ enum rte_flow_action_type {
> > > >        * See struct rte_flow_action_modify_field.
> > > >        */
> > > >       RTE_FLOW_ACTION_TYPE_MODIFY_FIELD,
> > > > +
> > > > +     /**
> > > > +      * Color the packet to reflect the meter color result.
> > > > +      *
> > > > +      * See struct rte_flow_action_color.
> > > > +      */
> > > > +     RTE_FLOW_ACTION_TYPE_COlOR,
> > >
> > > Typo here, it should be RTE_FLOW_ACTION_TYPE_COLOR.
> > >
> 
> Why do we need this action?

We need this new proposed RTE_FLOW_ACTION_TYPE_COLOR action to set the packet color in the packet mbuf (i.e. in the mbuf::sched:color field) in order to tell the later stages of the pipeline what the packet color is.

> if it is to save the color it should be done by using mark/metadata

As stated in its description, the  RTE_FLOW_ACTION_TYPE_MARK action Is setting the mbuf::hash.fdir.hi field, which is used for a different purpose that is unrelated to the packet color, which has its own field within the mbuf.

> Or by the action of meter.

The new proposed RTE_FLOW_ACTION_TYPE_COLOR action is indeed an action of the meter and meter only, right?

For example you can see
> RTE_FLOW_ACTION_TYPE_SECURITY
> Which if exist saves the session id to a dedicated mbuf field.
> 

The meter processing and action take place independently of the security API: it can be enabled when the security API is disabled and is not conditioned in any way by the security API. To be honest, I don't understand the connection with the security API that you are trying to make here.

> > > >  };
> > > >
> > > >  /**
> 
> [Snip]
> 
> > > I suggest you do not redundantly specify the value of the default policy ID
> in
> > the
> > > comment. Replace by "Default policy ID."
> > >
> > > > + * Action per color as below:
> > > > + * green - no action, yellow - no action, red - drop
> > >
> > > This does not make sense to me as the default policy. The default policy
> > should
> > > be "no change", i.e. green -> green (no change), yellow -> yellow (no
> change),
> > > red -> red (no change).
> >
> > Can you explain why it doesn't make sense to you?
> >
> > Meter with "no change" for all colors has no effect on the packets so it is
> > redundant action which just costs performance and resources - probably
> never
> > be used.
> >
> > The most common usage for meter is to drop all the packets come above
> the
> > defined rate limit - so it makes sense to take this behavior as default.
> >
> >
> > > I suggest we avoid the "no action" statement, as it might be confusing.
> >
> > Maybe "do nothing" is better?
> >
> Maybe passthrough? Or in rte_flow passthru
> 

No, we need to save the packet color in the packet mbuf (mbuf::sched:color), and the RTE_FLOW_ACTION_TYPE_PASSTHRU action is not doing this.

> 
> > > > + * It can be used without creating it by the rte_mtr_meter_policy_add
> > > > function.
> > > > + */
> 
> 
> Best,
> Ori

Regards,
Cristian

  reply	other threads:[~2021-03-29 16:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-03-18  8:58 Li Zhang
2021-03-18  8:58 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 2/2] [RFC]: ethdev: manage meter API object handles by the drivers Li Zhang
2021-03-23 21:33   ` Dumitrescu, Cristian
2021-03-25  8:21     ` Matan Azrad
2021-03-25 23:16       ` Ajit Khaparde
2021-03-29 19:56         ` Matan Azrad
2021-03-27 13:15       ` Jerin Jacob
2021-03-29 20:10         ` Matan Azrad
2021-03-31 10:22           ` Jerin Jacob
2021-03-23 21:02 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 1/2] [RFC]: ethdev: add pre-defined meter policy API Dumitrescu, Cristian
2021-03-25  6:56   ` Matan Azrad
2021-03-29  9:23     ` Ori Kam
2021-03-29 16:24       ` Dumitrescu, Cristian [this message]
2021-04-01 13:13         ` Ori Kam
2021-04-01 13:35           ` Dumitrescu, Cristian
2021-04-01 14:22             ` Ori Kam
2021-03-29 16:08     ` Dumitrescu, Cristian
2021-03-29 20:43       ` Matan Azrad
2021-03-31 15:46         ` Dumitrescu, Cristian
2021-04-04 13:48           ` Matan Azrad
2021-03-29 10:38 ` Jerin Jacob
2021-03-29 20:31   ` Matan Azrad
2021-03-31 10:50     ` Jerin Jacob
2021-04-13  0:14 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 0/2] Support " Li Zhang
2021-04-13  0:14   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 1/2] ethdev: add pre-defined " Li Zhang
2021-04-13 14:19     ` Dumitrescu, Cristian
2021-04-14  3:23       ` Li Zhang
2021-04-13 14:59     ` Dumitrescu, Cristian
2021-04-14  4:55       ` Li Zhang
2021-04-14  8:02         ` Thomas Monjalon
2021-04-14  8:31           ` Matan Azrad
2021-04-14  8:47           ` Asaf Penso
2021-04-14  8:59             ` Li Zhang
2021-04-14  9:04             ` Thomas Monjalon
2021-04-14 14:00             ` Dumitrescu, Cristian
2021-04-14 16:21               ` Li Zhang
2021-04-13 16:25     ` Kinsella, Ray
2021-04-13  0:14   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 2/2] app/testpmd: support policy actions per color Li Zhang
2021-04-14  3:12 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 0/2] Support meter policy API Li Zhang
2021-04-14  3:12   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 1/2] ethdev: add pre-defined " Li Zhang
2021-04-14  3:12   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 2/2] app/testpmd: support policy actions per color Li Zhang
2021-04-14  6:32 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 0/2] Support meter policy API Li Zhang
2021-04-14  6:32   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 1/2] ethdev: add pre-defined " Li Zhang
2021-04-14  6:32   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 2/2] app/testpmd: support policy actions per color Li Zhang
2021-04-14  8:57 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 0/2] Support meter policy API Li Zhang
2021-04-14  8:57   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 1/2] ethdev: add pre-defined " Li Zhang
2021-04-14 16:16     ` Dumitrescu, Cristian
2021-04-15  1:59       ` Li Zhang
2021-04-14 22:21     ` Singh, Jasvinder
2021-04-15  2:00       ` Li Zhang
2021-04-14  8:58   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 2/2] app/testpmd: support policy actions per color Li Zhang
2021-04-15  4:54 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v7 0/2] Support meter policy API Li Zhang
2021-04-15  4:54   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v7 1/2] ethdev: add pre-defined " Li Zhang
2021-04-15  4:54   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v7 2/2] app/testpmd: support policy actions per color Li Zhang
2021-04-15  9:20 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v8 0/2] Support meter policy API Li Zhang
2021-04-15  9:20   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v8 1/2] ethdev: add pre-defined " Li Zhang
2021-04-15 15:13     ` Ori Kam
2021-04-19 12:34     ` Singh, Jasvinder
2021-04-19 16:13       ` Jiawei(Jonny) Wang
2021-04-15  9:20   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v8 2/2] app/testpmd: support policy actions per color Li Zhang
2021-04-19 16:08   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v9 0/2] Support meter policy API Jiawei Wang
2021-04-19 16:08     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v9 1/2] ethdev: add pre-defined " Jiawei Wang
2021-04-20 11:18       ` Dumitrescu, Cristian
2021-04-20 12:55         ` Asaf Penso
2021-04-20 21:01           ` Dumitrescu, Cristian
2021-04-19 16:08     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v9 2/2] app/testpmd: support policy actions per color Jiawei Wang
2021-04-20 11:36     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v9 0/2] Support meter policy API Ferruh Yigit
2021-04-20 14:08       ` Jiawei(Jonny) Wang
2021-04-20 14:04     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v10 " Jiawei Wang
2021-04-20 14:04       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v10 1/2] ethdev: add pre-defined " Jiawei Wang
2021-04-20 17:12         ` Ajit Khaparde
2021-04-21 19:43         ` Thomas Monjalon
2021-04-22  1:29           ` Li Zhang
2021-04-20 14:04       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v10 2/2] app/testpmd: support policy actions per color Jiawei Wang
2021-04-20 17:14         ` Ajit Khaparde
2021-04-21 10:23       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v10 0/2] Support meter policy API Ferruh Yigit
2021-04-20 17:56 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 1/2] [RFC]: ethdev: add pre-defined " Stephen Hemminger
2021-04-21  2:49   ` Li Zhang

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