From: Jerin Jacob <jerinjacobk@gmail.com>
To: Rongwei Liu <rongweil@nvidia.com>
Cc: "dev@dpdk.org" <dev@dpdk.org>, Matan Azrad <matan@nvidia.com>,
Slava Ovsiienko <viacheslavo@nvidia.com>,
Ori Kam <orika@nvidia.com>,
"NBU-Contact-Thomas Monjalon (EXTERNAL)" <thomas@monjalon.net>,
"stephen@networkplumber.org" <stephen@networkplumber.org>,
Raslan Darawsheh <rasland@nvidia.com>,
Ferruh Yigit <ferruh.yigit@amd.com>,
Andrew Rybchenko <andrew.rybchenko@oktetlabs.ru>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 3/3] ethdev: add standby flags for live migration
Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2023 22:40:00 +0530 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CALBAE1MA6m0Bk55_9XomRTStmE2=tJQh_eCNoqku3kxxuNUPqA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <BN9PR12MB5273031B7964CD5BF86B8D31ABD39@BN9PR12MB5273.namprd12.prod.outlook.com>
On Mon, Jan 30, 2023 at 8:17 AM Rongwei Liu <rongweil@nvidia.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Jerin
>
> BR
> Rongwei
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jerin Jacob <jerinjacobk@gmail.com>
> > Sent: Monday, January 23, 2023 21:20
> > To: Rongwei Liu <rongweil@nvidia.com>
> > Cc: dev@dpdk.org; Matan Azrad <matan@nvidia.com>; Slava Ovsiienko
> > <viacheslavo@nvidia.com>; Ori Kam <orika@nvidia.com>; NBU-Contact-
> > Thomas Monjalon (EXTERNAL) <thomas@monjalon.net>;
> > stephen@networkplumber.org; Raslan Darawsheh <rasland@nvidia.com>;
> > Ferruh Yigit <ferruh.yigit@amd.com>; Andrew Rybchenko
> > <andrew.rybchenko@oktetlabs.ru>
> > Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 3/3] ethdev: add standby flags for live migration
> >
> > External email: Use caution opening links or attachments
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 18, 2023 at 9:15 PM Rongwei Liu <rongweil@nvidia.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Some flags are added to the process state API for live migration in
> > > order to change the behavior of the flow rules in a standby process.
> > >
> > > Signed-off-by: Rongwei Liu <rongweil@nvidia.com>
> > > ---
> > > lib/ethdev/rte_ethdev.h | 21 +++++++++++++++++++++
> > > 1 file changed, 21 insertions(+)
> > >
> > > diff --git a/lib/ethdev/rte_ethdev.h b/lib/ethdev/rte_ethdev.h index
> > > 1505396ced..9ae4f426a7 100644
> > > --- a/lib/ethdev/rte_ethdev.h
> > > +++ b/lib/ethdev/rte_ethdev.h
> > > @@ -2260,6 +2260,27 @@ int rte_eth_dev_owner_get(const uint16_t
> > > port_id, __rte_experimental int rte_eth_process_set_role(bool
> > > standby, uint32_t flags);
> > >
> > > +/**@{@name Process role flags
> > > + * used when migrating from an application to another one.
> > > + * @see rte_eth_process_set_active
> > > + */
> > > +/**
> > > + * When set on a standby process, ingress flow rules will be
> > > +effective
> > > + * in active and standby processes, so the ingress traffic may be duplicated.
> > > + */
> > > +#define RTE_ETH_PROCESS_FLAG_STANDBY_DUP_FLOW_INGRESS
> > RTE_BIT32(0)
> >
> >
> > How to duplicate if action has statefull items for example,
> > rte_flow_action_security::security_session -> it store the live pointer
> > rte_flow_action_meter::mtr_id; -> MTR object ID created with
> > rte_mtr_create()
> I agree with you, not all actions can be supported in the active/standby model.
IMO, Where ever rules are not standalone (like QUEUE, RSS) etc, It
will be architecturally is not possible to migrate with pointers.
That's where I have concern generalizing this feature for this ethdev.
Also, I don't believe there is any real HW support needed for this.
IMO, Having DPDK standard multiprocess can do this by keeping
secondary application can migrate, keeping all the SW logic in the
primary process by doing the housekeeping in the application. On plus
side,
it works with pointers too.
I am not sure how much housekeeping offload to _HW_ in your case. In
my view, it should be generic utils functions to track the flow
and installing the rules using rte_flow APIs and keep the scope only
for rte_flow.
That's just my view. I leave to ethdev maintainers for the rest of the
review and decision on this series.
> That' why we have return value checking and rollback.
> In Nvidia driver doc, we suggested user to start from 'rss/queue/jump' actions.
> Meter is possible, at least per my view.
> Assume: "meter g_action queue 0 / y_action drop / r_action drop"
> Old application: create meter_id 'A' with pre-defined limitation.
> New application: create meter_id 'B' which has the same parameters with 'A'.
> 1. 1st possible approach:
> Hardware duplicates the traffic; old application use meter 'A' and new application uses meter 'B' to control traffic throughputs.
> Since traffic is duplicated, so it can go to different meters.
> 2. 2nd possible approach:
> Meter 'A' and 'B' point to the same hardware resource, and traffic reaches this part first and if green, duplication happens.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-01-30 17:10 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-12-01 8:20 [RFC 0/2] add API to set process to primary or secondary Rongwei Liu
2022-12-01 8:20 ` [RFC 1/2] ethdev: add group description Rongwei Liu
2022-12-01 8:20 ` [RFC 2/2] ethdev: add API to set process to primary or secondary Rongwei Liu
2022-12-01 15:10 ` Stephen Hemminger
2022-12-02 3:27 ` Rongwei Liu
2022-12-05 16:08 ` Stephen Hemminger
2022-12-06 3:47 ` Rongwei Liu
2022-12-06 5:54 ` Stephen Hemminger
2022-12-21 9:00 ` [RFC v3 0/2] add API to set process to active or standby Rongwei Liu
2022-12-21 9:00 ` [RFC v3 1/2] ethdev: add group description Rongwei Liu
2023-01-18 15:44 ` [PATCH v4 0/3] add API for live migration Rongwei Liu
2023-01-18 15:44 ` [PATCH v4 1/3] ethdev: add flow rule group description Rongwei Liu
2023-01-31 11:53 ` Ori Kam
2023-02-06 12:15 ` Rongwei Liu
2023-02-07 2:57 ` [PATCH v5] " Rongwei Liu
2023-02-08 20:28 ` Ferruh Yigit
2023-02-09 2:06 ` Rongwei Liu
2023-02-09 7:32 ` [PATCH v6] " Rongwei Liu
2023-02-09 8:01 ` Ori Kam
2023-02-09 11:26 ` Ferruh Yigit
2023-01-18 15:44 ` [PATCH v4 2/3] ethdev: add standby state for live migration Rongwei Liu
2023-01-31 13:50 ` Ori Kam
2023-01-31 18:14 ` Jerin Jacob
2023-01-31 22:55 ` Thomas Monjalon
2023-02-01 7:32 ` Andrew Rybchenko
2023-02-01 8:31 ` Thomas Monjalon
2023-02-01 8:40 ` Jerin Jacob
2023-02-01 8:46 ` Thomas Monjalon
2023-02-02 10:23 ` Rongwei Liu
2023-02-01 7:52 ` Andrew Rybchenko
2023-02-01 8:27 ` Thomas Monjalon
2023-02-01 8:40 ` Andrew Rybchenko
2023-01-18 15:44 ` [PATCH v4 3/3] ethdev: add standby flags " Rongwei Liu
2023-01-23 13:20 ` Jerin Jacob
2023-01-30 2:47 ` Rongwei Liu
2023-01-30 17:10 ` Jerin Jacob [this message]
2023-01-31 2:53 ` Rongwei Liu
2023-01-31 8:45 ` Jerin Jacob
2023-01-31 9:01 ` Rongwei Liu
2023-01-31 14:37 ` Jerin Jacob
2023-01-31 14:45 ` Ori Kam
2023-01-31 17:50 ` Thomas Monjalon
2023-01-31 18:10 ` Jerin Jacob
2022-12-21 9:00 ` [RFC v3 2/2] ethdev: add API to set process to active or standby Rongwei Liu
2022-12-21 9:12 ` Jerin Jacob
2022-12-21 9:32 ` Rongwei Liu
2022-12-21 10:59 ` Jerin Jacob
2022-12-21 12:05 ` Rongwei Liu
2022-12-21 12:44 ` Jerin Jacob
2022-12-21 12:50 ` Rongwei Liu
2022-12-21 13:12 ` Jerin Jacob
2022-12-21 14:33 ` Rongwei Liu
2022-12-26 16:44 ` Ori Kam
2023-01-15 22:46 ` Thomas Monjalon
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