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From: Andrew Rybchenko <andrew.rybchenko@oktetlabs.ru>
To: Honnappa Nagarahalli <Honnappa.Nagarahalli@arm.com>,
	Konstantin Ananyev <konstantin.v.ananyev@yandex.ru>,
	"dev@dpdk.org" <dev@dpdk.org>
Cc: "honnappanagarahalli@gmail.com" <honnappanagarahalli@gmail.com>,
	Feifei Wang <Feifei.Wang2@arm.com>,
	Ruifeng Wang <Ruifeng.Wang@arm.com>, nd <nd@arm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 5/5] examples/l3fwd: enable direct rearm mode
Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2022 13:32:54 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <75d4a26f-e224-7416-c454-53aece4f5853@oktetlabs.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <DBAPR08MB5814227CE68795DEEAF1C27598DC9@DBAPR08MB5814.eurprd08.prod.outlook.com>

On 5/31/22 20:14, Honnappa Nagarahalli wrote:
> <snip>
>>
>> 25/05/2022 01:24, Honnappa Nagarahalli пишет:
>>> From: Konstantin Ananyev <konstantin.v.ananyev@yandex.ru>
>>>
>>> 20/04/2022 09:16, Feifei Wang пишет:
>>>>> Enable direct rearm mode. The mapping is decided in the data plane
>>>>> based on the first packet received.
>>>>>
>>>>> Suggested-by: Honnappa Nagarahalli <honnappa.nagarahalli@arm.com>
>>>>> Signed-off-by: Feifei Wang <feifei.wang2@arm.com>
>>>>> Reviewed-by: Ruifeng Wang <ruifeng.wang@arm.com>
>>>>> Reviewed-by: Honnappa Nagarahalli <honnappa.nagarahalli@arm.com>
>>>>> ---
>>>>>    examples/l3fwd/l3fwd_lpm.c | 16 +++++++++++++++-
>>>>>    1 file changed, 15 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
>>>>>
>>>>> diff --git a/examples/l3fwd/l3fwd_lpm.c b/examples/l3fwd/l3fwd_lpm.c
>>>>> index bec22c44cd..38ffdf4636 100644
>>>>> --- a/examples/l3fwd/l3fwd_lpm.c
>>>>> +++ b/examples/l3fwd/l3fwd_lpm.c
>>>>> @@ -147,7 +147,7 @@ lpm_main_loop(__rte_unused void *dummy)
>>>>>        unsigned lcore_id;
>>>>>        uint64_t prev_tsc, diff_tsc, cur_tsc;
>>>>>        int i, nb_rx;
>>>>> -    uint16_t portid;
>>>>> +    uint16_t portid, tx_portid;
>>>>>        uint8_t queueid;
>>>>>        struct lcore_conf *qconf;
>>>>>        const uint64_t drain_tsc = (rte_get_tsc_hz() + US_PER_S - 1) /
>>>>> @@ -158,6 +158,8 @@ lpm_main_loop(__rte_unused void *dummy)
>>>>>        const uint16_t n_rx_q = qconf->n_rx_queue;
>>>>>        const uint16_t n_tx_p = qconf->n_tx_port;
>>>>> +    int direct_rearm_map[n_rx_q];
>>>>> +
>>>>>        if (n_rx_q == 0) {
>>>>>            RTE_LOG(INFO, L3FWD, "lcore %u has nothing to do\n",
>>>>> lcore_id);
>>>>>            return 0;
>>>>> @@ -169,6 +171,7 @@ lpm_main_loop(__rte_unused void *dummy)
>>>>>            portid = qconf->rx_queue_list[i].port_id;
>>>>>            queueid = qconf->rx_queue_list[i].queue_id;
>>>>> +        direct_rearm_map[i] = 0;
>>>>>            RTE_LOG(INFO, L3FWD,
>>>>>                " -- lcoreid=%u portid=%u rxqueueid=%hhu\n",
>>>>>                lcore_id, portid, queueid); @@ -209,6 +212,17 @@
>>>>> lpm_main_loop(__rte_unused void *dummy)
>>>>>                if (nb_rx == 0)
>>>>>                    continue;
>>>>> +            /* Determine the direct rearm mapping based on the
>>>>> +first
>>>>> +             * packet received on the rx queue
>>>>> +             */
>>>>> +            if (direct_rearm_map[i] == 0) {
>>>>> +                tx_portid = lpm_get_dst_port(qconf, pkts_burst[0],
>>>>> +                            portid);
>>>>> +                rte_eth_direct_rxrearm_map(portid, queueid,
>>>>> +                                tx_portid, queueid);
>>>>> +                direct_rearm_map[i] = 1;
>>>>> +            }
>>>>> +
>>>
>>>> That just doesn't look right to me: why to make decision based on the
>>>> first packet?
>>> The TX queue depends on the incoming packet. So, this method covers
>>> more scenarios than doing it in the control plane where the outgoing
>>> queue is not known.
>>>
>>>
>>>> What would happen if second and all other packets have to be routed
>>>> to different ports?
>>> This is an example application and it should be fine to make this
>>> assumption.
>>> More over, it does not cause any problems if packets change in between.
>>> When
>>> the packets change back, the feature works again.
>>>
>>>> In fact, this direct-rearm mode seems suitable only for hard-coded
>>>> one to one mapped forwarding (examples/l2fwd, testpmd).
>>>> For l3fwd it can be used safely only when we have one port in use.
>>> Can you elaborate more on the safety issue when more than one port is
>> used?
>>>
>>>> Also I think it should be selected at init-time and it shouldn't be
>>>> on by default.
>>>> To summarize, my opinion:
>>>> special cmd-line parameter to enable it.
>>> Can you please elaborate why a command line parameter is required?
>>> Other similar features like RTE_ETH_TX_OFFLOAD_MBUF_FAST_FREE are
>>> enabled without a command line parameter. IMO, this is how it should
>>> ber. Essentially we are trying to measure how different PMDs perform,
>>> the ones that have implemented performance improvement features
>> would
>>> show better performance (i.e. the PMDs implementing the features
>>> should not be penalized by asking for additional user input).
>>
>>   From my perspective, main purpose of l3fwd application is to demonstrate
>> DPDK ability to do packet routing based on input packet contents.
>> Making guesses about packet contents is a change in expected behavior.
>> For some cases it might improve performance, for many others - will most
>> likely cause performance drop.
>> I think that performance drop as default behavior (running the same
>> parameters as before) should not be allowed.
>> Plus you did not provided ability to switch off that behavior, if undesired.
> There is no drop in L3fwd performance due to this patch.

It is a questionable statement. Sorry. The patch adds code on
data path. So, I'm almost confident that it is possible to find
a case when performance slightly drops. May be it is always
minor and acceptable.

>>
>> About comparison with RTE_ETH_TX_OFFLOAD_MBUF_FAST_FREE default
>> enablement - I don't think it is correct.
>> Within l3fwd app we can safely guarantee that all
>> RTE_ETH_TX_OFFLOAD_MBUF_FAST_FREE pre-requirements are met:
>> in each TX queue all mbufs will belong to the same mempool and their refcnt
>> will always equal to one.
>> Here you are making guesses about contents of input packets, without any
>> guarantee that you guess will always be valid.
> This is not a guess. The code understands the incoming traffic and configures accordingly. So, it should be correct. Since it is a sample application, we do not expect the traffic to be complex. If it is complex, the performance will be the same as before or better.
> 
>>
>> BTW, what's wrong with using l2fwd to demonstrate that feature?
>> Seems like a natural choice to me.
> The performance of L3fwd application in DPDK has become a industry standard, hence we need to showcase the performance in L3fwd application.
> 
>>
>>>> allowable only when we run l3fwd over one port.
>>>
>>>
>>>>>    #if defined RTE_ARCH_X86 || defined __ARM_NEON \
>>>>>                 || defined RTE_ARCH_PPC_64
>>>>>                l3fwd_lpm_send_packets(nb_rx, pkts_burst,
> 


  reply	other threads:[~2022-06-03 10:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 145+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-04-20  8:16 [PATCH v1 0/5] Direct re-arming of buffers on receive side Feifei Wang
2022-04-20  8:16 ` [PATCH v1 1/5] net/i40e: remove redundant Dtype initialization Feifei Wang
2022-04-20  8:16 ` [PATCH v1 2/5] net/i40e: enable direct rearm mode Feifei Wang
2022-05-11 22:28   ` Konstantin Ananyev
2022-04-20  8:16 ` [PATCH v1 3/5] ethdev: add API for " Feifei Wang
2022-04-20  9:59   ` Morten Brørup
2022-04-29  2:42     ` 回复: " Feifei Wang
2022-04-20 10:41   ` Andrew Rybchenko
2022-04-29  6:28     ` 回复: " Feifei Wang
2022-05-10 22:49       ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2022-06-03 10:19         ` Andrew Rybchenko
2022-04-20 10:50   ` Jerin Jacob
2022-05-02  3:09     ` 回复: " Feifei Wang
2022-04-21 14:57   ` Stephen Hemminger
2022-04-29  6:35     ` 回复: " Feifei Wang
2022-04-20  8:16 ` [PATCH v1 4/5] net/i40e: add direct rearm mode internal API Feifei Wang
2022-05-11 22:31   ` Konstantin Ananyev
2022-04-20  8:16 ` [PATCH v1 5/5] examples/l3fwd: enable direct rearm mode Feifei Wang
2022-04-20 10:10   ` Morten Brørup
2022-04-21  2:35     ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2022-04-21  6:40       ` Morten Brørup
2022-05-10 22:01         ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2022-05-11  7:17           ` Morten Brørup
2022-05-11 22:33   ` Konstantin Ananyev
2022-05-27 11:28     ` Konstantin Ananyev
2022-05-31 17:14       ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2022-06-03 10:32         ` Andrew Rybchenko [this message]
2022-06-06 11:27         ` Konstantin Ananyev
2022-06-29 21:25           ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2022-05-11 23:00 ` [PATCH v1 0/5] Direct re-arming of buffers on receive side Konstantin Ananyev
     [not found] ` <20220516061012.618787-1-feifei.wang2@arm.com>
2022-05-24  1:25   ` Konstantin Ananyev
2022-05-24 12:40     ` Morten Brørup
2022-05-24 20:14     ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2022-05-28 12:22       ` Konstantin Ananyev
2022-06-01  1:00         ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2022-06-03 23:32           ` Konstantin Ananyev
2022-06-04  8:07             ` Morten Brørup
2022-06-29 21:58               ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2022-06-30 15:21                 ` Morten Brørup
2022-07-01 19:30                   ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2022-07-01 20:28                     ` Morten Brørup
2022-06-13  5:55     ` 回复: " Feifei Wang
2023-01-04  7:30 ` [PATCH v3 0/3] " Feifei Wang
2023-01-04  7:30   ` [PATCH v3 1/3] ethdev: enable direct rearm with separate API Feifei Wang
2023-01-04  8:21     ` Morten Brørup
2023-01-04  8:51       ` 回复: " Feifei Wang
2023-01-04 10:11         ` Morten Brørup
2023-02-24  8:55           ` 回复: " Feifei Wang
2023-03-06 12:49       ` Ferruh Yigit
2023-03-06 13:26         ` Morten Brørup
2023-03-06 14:53           ` 回复: " Feifei Wang
2023-03-06 15:02           ` Ferruh Yigit
2023-03-07  6:12             ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2023-03-07 10:52               ` Konstantin Ananyev
2023-03-07 20:41               ` Ferruh Yigit
2023-03-22 14:43                 ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2023-02-02 14:33     ` Konstantin Ananyev
2023-02-24  9:45       ` 回复: " Feifei Wang
2023-02-27 19:31         ` Konstantin Ananyev
2023-02-28  2:16           ` 回复: " Feifei Wang
2023-02-28  8:09           ` Morten Brørup
2023-03-01  7:34             ` 回复: " Feifei Wang
2023-01-04  7:30   ` [PATCH v3 2/3] net/i40e: " Feifei Wang
2023-02-02 14:37     ` Konstantin Ananyev
2023-02-24  9:50       ` 回复: " Feifei Wang
2023-02-27 19:35         ` Konstantin Ananyev
2023-02-28  2:15           ` 回复: " Feifei Wang
2023-03-07 11:01             ` Konstantin Ananyev
2023-03-14  6:07               ` 回复: " Feifei Wang
2023-03-19 16:11                 ` Konstantin Ananyev
2023-03-23 10:49                   ` Feifei Wang
2023-01-04  7:30   ` [PATCH v3 3/3] net/ixgbe: " Feifei Wang
2023-01-31  6:13   ` 回复: [PATCH v3 0/3] Direct re-arming of buffers on receive side Feifei Wang
2023-02-01  1:10     ` Konstantin Ananyev
2023-02-01  2:24       ` 回复: " Feifei Wang
2023-03-22 12:56   ` Morten Brørup
2023-03-22 13:41     ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2023-03-22 14:04       ` Morten Brørup
2023-08-02  7:38 ` [PATCH v8 0/4] Recycle mbufs from Tx queue into Rx queue Feifei Wang
2023-08-02  7:38   ` [PATCH v8 1/4] ethdev: add API for mbufs recycle mode Feifei Wang
2023-08-02  7:38   ` [PATCH v8 2/4] net/i40e: implement " Feifei Wang
2023-08-02  7:38   ` [PATCH v8 3/4] net/ixgbe: " Feifei Wang
2023-08-02  7:38   ` [PATCH v8 4/4] app/testpmd: add recycle mbufs engine Feifei Wang
2023-08-02  8:08 ` [PATCH v9 0/4] Recycle mbufs from Tx queue into Rx queue Feifei Wang
2023-08-02  8:08   ` [PATCH v9 1/4] ethdev: add API for mbufs recycle mode Feifei Wang
2023-08-02  8:08   ` [PATCH v9 2/4] net/i40e: implement " Feifei Wang
2023-08-02  8:08   ` [PATCH v9 3/4] net/ixgbe: " Feifei Wang
2023-08-02  8:08   ` [PATCH v9 4/4] app/testpmd: add recycle mbufs engine Feifei Wang
2023-08-04  9:24 ` [PATCH v10 0/4] Recycle mbufs from Tx queue into Rx queue Feifei Wang
2023-08-04  9:24   ` [PATCH v10 1/4] ethdev: add API for mbufs recycle mode Feifei Wang
2023-08-04  9:24   ` [PATCH v10 2/4] net/i40e: implement " Feifei Wang
2023-08-04  9:24   ` [PATCH v10 3/4] net/ixgbe: " Feifei Wang
2023-08-04  9:24   ` [PATCH v10 4/4] app/testpmd: add recycle mbufs engine Feifei Wang
2023-08-22  7:27 ` [PATCH v11 0/4] Recycle mbufs from Tx queue into Rx queue Feifei Wang
2023-08-22  7:27   ` [PATCH v11 1/4] ethdev: add API for mbufs recycle mode Feifei Wang
2023-08-22 14:02     ` Stephen Hemminger
2023-08-24  3:16       ` Feifei Wang
2023-08-22 23:33     ` Konstantin Ananyev
2023-08-24  3:38     ` Feifei Wang
2023-08-22  7:27   ` [PATCH v11 2/4] net/i40e: implement " Feifei Wang
2023-08-22 23:43     ` Konstantin Ananyev
2023-08-24  6:10     ` Feifei Wang
2023-08-31 17:24       ` Konstantin Ananyev
2023-08-31 23:49         ` Konstantin Ananyev
2023-09-01 12:22         ` Feifei Wang
2023-09-01 14:22           ` Konstantin Ananyev
2023-09-04  6:59             ` Feifei Wang
2023-09-04  7:49               ` Konstantin Ananyev
2023-09-04  9:24                 ` Feifei Wang
2023-09-04 10:21                   ` Konstantin Ananyev
2023-09-05  3:11                     ` Feifei Wang
2023-09-22 14:58                       ` Feifei Wang
2023-09-22 15:46                         ` Feifei Wang
2023-09-22 16:40                           ` Konstantin Ananyev
2023-09-23  5:52                             ` Feifei Wang
2023-09-23 20:40                               ` Konstantin Ananyev
2023-09-25  3:26                               ` Feifei Wang
2023-08-22  7:27   ` [PATCH v11 3/4] net/ixgbe: " Feifei Wang
2023-08-22  7:27   ` [PATCH v11 4/4] app/testpmd: add recycle mbufs engine Feifei Wang
2023-08-22  7:33   ` [PATCH v11 0/4] Recycle mbufs from Tx queue into Rx queue Feifei Wang
2023-08-22 13:59   ` Stephen Hemminger
2023-08-24  3:11     ` Feifei Wang
2023-08-24  7:36 ` [PATCH v12 " Feifei Wang
2023-08-24  7:36   ` [PATCH v12 1/4] ethdev: add API for mbufs recycle mode Feifei Wang
2023-08-31  9:16     ` Feifei Wang
2023-09-20 13:10     ` Ferruh Yigit
2023-08-24  7:36   ` [PATCH v12 2/4] net/i40e: implement " Feifei Wang
2023-08-24  7:36   ` [PATCH v12 3/4] net/ixgbe: " Feifei Wang
2023-08-24  7:36   ` [PATCH v12 4/4] app/testpmd: add recycle mbufs engine Feifei Wang
2023-09-20 13:11     ` Ferruh Yigit
2023-09-20 13:12   ` [PATCH v12 0/4] Recycle mbufs from Tx queue into Rx queue Ferruh Yigit
2023-09-22 15:30     ` Ferruh Yigit
2023-09-25  3:19 ` [PATCH v13 " Feifei Wang
2023-09-25  3:19   ` [PATCH v13 1/4] ethdev: add API for mbufs recycle mode Feifei Wang
2023-09-25  4:40     ` Ajit Khaparde
2023-09-25  3:19   ` [PATCH v13 2/4] net/i40e: implement " Feifei Wang
2023-09-26  8:26     ` Ferruh Yigit
2023-09-26  8:56       ` Konstantin Ananyev
2023-09-26 13:34     ` Konstantin Ananyev
2023-09-25  3:19   ` [PATCH v13 3/4] net/ixgbe: " Feifei Wang
2023-09-26 13:30     ` Konstantin Ananyev
2023-09-25  3:19   ` [PATCH v13 4/4] app/testpmd: add recycle mbufs engine Feifei Wang
2023-09-26 13:30     ` Konstantin Ananyev
2023-09-26 16:38       ` Ajit Khaparde
2023-09-27 17:24   ` [PATCH v13 0/4] Recycle mbufs from Tx queue into Rx queue Ferruh Yigit

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