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From: Honnappa Nagarahalli <Honnappa.Nagarahalli@arm.com>
To: Konstantin Ananyev <konstantin.v.ananyev@yandex.ru>,
	"dev@dpdk.org" <dev@dpdk.org>
Cc: "honnappanagarahalli@gmail.com" <honnappanagarahalli@gmail.com>,
	Feifei Wang <Feifei.Wang2@arm.com>,
	Ruifeng Wang <Ruifeng.Wang@arm.com>, nd <nd@arm.com>,
	nd <nd@arm.com>
Subject: RE: [PATCH v1 5/5] examples/l3fwd: enable direct rearm mode
Date: Tue, 31 May 2022 17:14:49 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <DBAPR08MB5814227CE68795DEEAF1C27598DC9@DBAPR08MB5814.eurprd08.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <94fc60e2-09a5-adb3-7926-1b21e9ebe8ab@yandex.ru>

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> 
> 25/05/2022 01:24, Honnappa Nagarahalli пишет:
> > From: Konstantin Ananyev <konstantin.v.ananyev@yandex.ru>
> >
> > 20/04/2022 09:16, Feifei Wang пишет:
> >>> Enable direct rearm mode. The mapping is decided in the data plane
> >>> based on the first packet received.
> >>>
> >>> Suggested-by: Honnappa Nagarahalli <honnappa.nagarahalli@arm.com>
> >>> Signed-off-by: Feifei Wang <feifei.wang2@arm.com>
> >>> Reviewed-by: Ruifeng Wang <ruifeng.wang@arm.com>
> >>> Reviewed-by: Honnappa Nagarahalli <honnappa.nagarahalli@arm.com>
> >>> ---
> >>>   examples/l3fwd/l3fwd_lpm.c | 16 +++++++++++++++-
> >>>   1 file changed, 15 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
> >>>
> >>> diff --git a/examples/l3fwd/l3fwd_lpm.c b/examples/l3fwd/l3fwd_lpm.c
> >>> index bec22c44cd..38ffdf4636 100644
> >>> --- a/examples/l3fwd/l3fwd_lpm.c
> >>> +++ b/examples/l3fwd/l3fwd_lpm.c
> >>> @@ -147,7 +147,7 @@ lpm_main_loop(__rte_unused void *dummy)
> >>>       unsigned lcore_id;
> >>>       uint64_t prev_tsc, diff_tsc, cur_tsc;
> >>>       int i, nb_rx;
> >>> -    uint16_t portid;
> >>> +    uint16_t portid, tx_portid;
> >>>       uint8_t queueid;
> >>>       struct lcore_conf *qconf;
> >>>       const uint64_t drain_tsc = (rte_get_tsc_hz() + US_PER_S - 1) /
> >>> @@ -158,6 +158,8 @@ lpm_main_loop(__rte_unused void *dummy)
> >>>       const uint16_t n_rx_q = qconf->n_rx_queue;
> >>>       const uint16_t n_tx_p = qconf->n_tx_port;
> >>> +    int direct_rearm_map[n_rx_q];
> >>> +
> >>>       if (n_rx_q == 0) {
> >>>           RTE_LOG(INFO, L3FWD, "lcore %u has nothing to do\n",
> >>> lcore_id);
> >>>           return 0;
> >>> @@ -169,6 +171,7 @@ lpm_main_loop(__rte_unused void *dummy)
> >>>           portid = qconf->rx_queue_list[i].port_id;
> >>>           queueid = qconf->rx_queue_list[i].queue_id;
> >>> +        direct_rearm_map[i] = 0;
> >>>           RTE_LOG(INFO, L3FWD,
> >>>               " -- lcoreid=%u portid=%u rxqueueid=%hhu\n",
> >>>               lcore_id, portid, queueid); @@ -209,6 +212,17 @@
> >>> lpm_main_loop(__rte_unused void *dummy)
> >>>               if (nb_rx == 0)
> >>>                   continue;
> >>> +            /* Determine the direct rearm mapping based on the
> >>> +first
> >>> +             * packet received on the rx queue
> >>> +             */
> >>> +            if (direct_rearm_map[i] == 0) {
> >>> +                tx_portid = lpm_get_dst_port(qconf, pkts_burst[0],
> >>> +                            portid);
> >>> +                rte_eth_direct_rxrearm_map(portid, queueid,
> >>> +                                tx_portid, queueid);
> >>> +                direct_rearm_map[i] = 1;
> >>> +            }
> >>> +
> >
> >> That just doesn't look right to me: why to make decision based on the
> >> first packet?
> > The TX queue depends on the incoming packet. So, this method covers
> > more scenarios than doing it in the control plane where the outgoing
> > queue is not known.
> >
> >
> >> What would happen if second and all other packets have to be routed
> >> to different ports?
> > This is an example application and it should be fine to make this
> > assumption.
> > More over, it does not cause any problems if packets change in between.
> > When
> > the packets change back, the feature works again.
> >
> >> In fact, this direct-rearm mode seems suitable only for hard-coded
> >> one to one mapped forwarding (examples/l2fwd, testpmd).
> >> For l3fwd it can be used safely only when we have one port in use.
> > Can you elaborate more on the safety issue when more than one port is
> used?
> >
> >> Also I think it should be selected at init-time and it shouldn't be
> >> on by default.
> >> To summarize, my opinion:
> >> special cmd-line parameter to enable it.
> > Can you please elaborate why a command line parameter is required?
> > Other similar features like RTE_ETH_TX_OFFLOAD_MBUF_FAST_FREE are
> > enabled without a command line parameter. IMO, this is how it should
> > ber. Essentially we are trying to measure how different PMDs perform,
> > the ones that have implemented performance improvement features
> would
> > show better performance (i.e. the PMDs implementing the features
> > should not be penalized by asking for additional user input).
> 
>  From my perspective, main purpose of l3fwd application is to demonstrate
> DPDK ability to do packet routing based on input packet contents.
> Making guesses about packet contents is a change in expected behavior.
> For some cases it might improve performance, for many others - will most
> likely cause performance drop.
> I think that performance drop as default behavior (running the same
> parameters as before) should not be allowed.
> Plus you did not provided ability to switch off that behavior, if undesired.
There is no drop in L3fwd performance due to this patch.

> 
> About comparison with RTE_ETH_TX_OFFLOAD_MBUF_FAST_FREE default
> enablement - I don't think it is correct.
> Within l3fwd app we can safely guarantee that all
> RTE_ETH_TX_OFFLOAD_MBUF_FAST_FREE pre-requirements are met:
> in each TX queue all mbufs will belong to the same mempool and their refcnt
> will always equal to one.
> Here you are making guesses about contents of input packets, without any
> guarantee that you guess will always be valid.
This is not a guess. The code understands the incoming traffic and configures accordingly. So, it should be correct. Since it is a sample application, we do not expect the traffic to be complex. If it is complex, the performance will be the same as before or better.

> 
> BTW, what's wrong with using l2fwd to demonstrate that feature?
> Seems like a natural choice to me.
The performance of L3fwd application in DPDK has become a industry standard, hence we need to showcase the performance in L3fwd application.

> 
> >> allowable only when we run l3fwd over one port.
> >
> >
> >>>   #if defined RTE_ARCH_X86 || defined __ARM_NEON \
> >>>                || defined RTE_ARCH_PPC_64
> >>>               l3fwd_lpm_send_packets(nb_rx, pkts_burst,


  reply	other threads:[~2022-05-31 17:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 145+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-04-20  8:16 [PATCH v1 0/5] Direct re-arming of buffers on receive side Feifei Wang
2022-04-20  8:16 ` [PATCH v1 1/5] net/i40e: remove redundant Dtype initialization Feifei Wang
2022-04-20  8:16 ` [PATCH v1 2/5] net/i40e: enable direct rearm mode Feifei Wang
2022-05-11 22:28   ` Konstantin Ananyev
2022-04-20  8:16 ` [PATCH v1 3/5] ethdev: add API for " Feifei Wang
2022-04-20  9:59   ` Morten Brørup
2022-04-29  2:42     ` 回复: " Feifei Wang
2022-04-20 10:41   ` Andrew Rybchenko
2022-04-29  6:28     ` 回复: " Feifei Wang
2022-05-10 22:49       ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2022-06-03 10:19         ` Andrew Rybchenko
2022-04-20 10:50   ` Jerin Jacob
2022-05-02  3:09     ` 回复: " Feifei Wang
2022-04-21 14:57   ` Stephen Hemminger
2022-04-29  6:35     ` 回复: " Feifei Wang
2022-04-20  8:16 ` [PATCH v1 4/5] net/i40e: add direct rearm mode internal API Feifei Wang
2022-05-11 22:31   ` Konstantin Ananyev
2022-04-20  8:16 ` [PATCH v1 5/5] examples/l3fwd: enable direct rearm mode Feifei Wang
2022-04-20 10:10   ` Morten Brørup
2022-04-21  2:35     ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2022-04-21  6:40       ` Morten Brørup
2022-05-10 22:01         ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2022-05-11  7:17           ` Morten Brørup
2022-05-11 22:33   ` Konstantin Ananyev
2022-05-27 11:28     ` Konstantin Ananyev
2022-05-31 17:14       ` Honnappa Nagarahalli [this message]
2022-06-03 10:32         ` Andrew Rybchenko
2022-06-06 11:27         ` Konstantin Ananyev
2022-06-29 21:25           ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2022-05-11 23:00 ` [PATCH v1 0/5] Direct re-arming of buffers on receive side Konstantin Ananyev
     [not found] ` <20220516061012.618787-1-feifei.wang2@arm.com>
2022-05-24  1:25   ` Konstantin Ananyev
2022-05-24 12:40     ` Morten Brørup
2022-05-24 20:14     ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2022-05-28 12:22       ` Konstantin Ananyev
2022-06-01  1:00         ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2022-06-03 23:32           ` Konstantin Ananyev
2022-06-04  8:07             ` Morten Brørup
2022-06-29 21:58               ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2022-06-30 15:21                 ` Morten Brørup
2022-07-01 19:30                   ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2022-07-01 20:28                     ` Morten Brørup
2022-06-13  5:55     ` 回复: " Feifei Wang
2023-01-04  7:30 ` [PATCH v3 0/3] " Feifei Wang
2023-01-04  7:30   ` [PATCH v3 1/3] ethdev: enable direct rearm with separate API Feifei Wang
2023-01-04  8:21     ` Morten Brørup
2023-01-04  8:51       ` 回复: " Feifei Wang
2023-01-04 10:11         ` Morten Brørup
2023-02-24  8:55           ` 回复: " Feifei Wang
2023-03-06 12:49       ` Ferruh Yigit
2023-03-06 13:26         ` Morten Brørup
2023-03-06 14:53           ` 回复: " Feifei Wang
2023-03-06 15:02           ` Ferruh Yigit
2023-03-07  6:12             ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2023-03-07 10:52               ` Konstantin Ananyev
2023-03-07 20:41               ` Ferruh Yigit
2023-03-22 14:43                 ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2023-02-02 14:33     ` Konstantin Ananyev
2023-02-24  9:45       ` 回复: " Feifei Wang
2023-02-27 19:31         ` Konstantin Ananyev
2023-02-28  2:16           ` 回复: " Feifei Wang
2023-02-28  8:09           ` Morten Brørup
2023-03-01  7:34             ` 回复: " Feifei Wang
2023-01-04  7:30   ` [PATCH v3 2/3] net/i40e: " Feifei Wang
2023-02-02 14:37     ` Konstantin Ananyev
2023-02-24  9:50       ` 回复: " Feifei Wang
2023-02-27 19:35         ` Konstantin Ananyev
2023-02-28  2:15           ` 回复: " Feifei Wang
2023-03-07 11:01             ` Konstantin Ananyev
2023-03-14  6:07               ` 回复: " Feifei Wang
2023-03-19 16:11                 ` Konstantin Ananyev
2023-03-23 10:49                   ` Feifei Wang
2023-01-04  7:30   ` [PATCH v3 3/3] net/ixgbe: " Feifei Wang
2023-01-31  6:13   ` 回复: [PATCH v3 0/3] Direct re-arming of buffers on receive side Feifei Wang
2023-02-01  1:10     ` Konstantin Ananyev
2023-02-01  2:24       ` 回复: " Feifei Wang
2023-03-22 12:56   ` Morten Brørup
2023-03-22 13:41     ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2023-03-22 14:04       ` Morten Brørup
2023-08-02  7:38 ` [PATCH v8 0/4] Recycle mbufs from Tx queue into Rx queue Feifei Wang
2023-08-02  7:38   ` [PATCH v8 1/4] ethdev: add API for mbufs recycle mode Feifei Wang
2023-08-02  7:38   ` [PATCH v8 2/4] net/i40e: implement " Feifei Wang
2023-08-02  7:38   ` [PATCH v8 3/4] net/ixgbe: " Feifei Wang
2023-08-02  7:38   ` [PATCH v8 4/4] app/testpmd: add recycle mbufs engine Feifei Wang
2023-08-02  8:08 ` [PATCH v9 0/4] Recycle mbufs from Tx queue into Rx queue Feifei Wang
2023-08-02  8:08   ` [PATCH v9 1/4] ethdev: add API for mbufs recycle mode Feifei Wang
2023-08-02  8:08   ` [PATCH v9 2/4] net/i40e: implement " Feifei Wang
2023-08-02  8:08   ` [PATCH v9 3/4] net/ixgbe: " Feifei Wang
2023-08-02  8:08   ` [PATCH v9 4/4] app/testpmd: add recycle mbufs engine Feifei Wang
2023-08-04  9:24 ` [PATCH v10 0/4] Recycle mbufs from Tx queue into Rx queue Feifei Wang
2023-08-04  9:24   ` [PATCH v10 1/4] ethdev: add API for mbufs recycle mode Feifei Wang
2023-08-04  9:24   ` [PATCH v10 2/4] net/i40e: implement " Feifei Wang
2023-08-04  9:24   ` [PATCH v10 3/4] net/ixgbe: " Feifei Wang
2023-08-04  9:24   ` [PATCH v10 4/4] app/testpmd: add recycle mbufs engine Feifei Wang
2023-08-22  7:27 ` [PATCH v11 0/4] Recycle mbufs from Tx queue into Rx queue Feifei Wang
2023-08-22  7:27   ` [PATCH v11 1/4] ethdev: add API for mbufs recycle mode Feifei Wang
2023-08-22 14:02     ` Stephen Hemminger
2023-08-24  3:16       ` Feifei Wang
2023-08-22 23:33     ` Konstantin Ananyev
2023-08-24  3:38     ` Feifei Wang
2023-08-22  7:27   ` [PATCH v11 2/4] net/i40e: implement " Feifei Wang
2023-08-22 23:43     ` Konstantin Ananyev
2023-08-24  6:10     ` Feifei Wang
2023-08-31 17:24       ` Konstantin Ananyev
2023-08-31 23:49         ` Konstantin Ananyev
2023-09-01 12:22         ` Feifei Wang
2023-09-01 14:22           ` Konstantin Ananyev
2023-09-04  6:59             ` Feifei Wang
2023-09-04  7:49               ` Konstantin Ananyev
2023-09-04  9:24                 ` Feifei Wang
2023-09-04 10:21                   ` Konstantin Ananyev
2023-09-05  3:11                     ` Feifei Wang
2023-09-22 14:58                       ` Feifei Wang
2023-09-22 15:46                         ` Feifei Wang
2023-09-22 16:40                           ` Konstantin Ananyev
2023-09-23  5:52                             ` Feifei Wang
2023-09-23 20:40                               ` Konstantin Ananyev
2023-09-25  3:26                               ` Feifei Wang
2023-08-22  7:27   ` [PATCH v11 3/4] net/ixgbe: " Feifei Wang
2023-08-22  7:27   ` [PATCH v11 4/4] app/testpmd: add recycle mbufs engine Feifei Wang
2023-08-22  7:33   ` [PATCH v11 0/4] Recycle mbufs from Tx queue into Rx queue Feifei Wang
2023-08-22 13:59   ` Stephen Hemminger
2023-08-24  3:11     ` Feifei Wang
2023-08-24  7:36 ` [PATCH v12 " Feifei Wang
2023-08-24  7:36   ` [PATCH v12 1/4] ethdev: add API for mbufs recycle mode Feifei Wang
2023-08-31  9:16     ` Feifei Wang
2023-09-20 13:10     ` Ferruh Yigit
2023-08-24  7:36   ` [PATCH v12 2/4] net/i40e: implement " Feifei Wang
2023-08-24  7:36   ` [PATCH v12 3/4] net/ixgbe: " Feifei Wang
2023-08-24  7:36   ` [PATCH v12 4/4] app/testpmd: add recycle mbufs engine Feifei Wang
2023-09-20 13:11     ` Ferruh Yigit
2023-09-20 13:12   ` [PATCH v12 0/4] Recycle mbufs from Tx queue into Rx queue Ferruh Yigit
2023-09-22 15:30     ` Ferruh Yigit
2023-09-25  3:19 ` [PATCH v13 " Feifei Wang
2023-09-25  3:19   ` [PATCH v13 1/4] ethdev: add API for mbufs recycle mode Feifei Wang
2023-09-25  4:40     ` Ajit Khaparde
2023-09-25  3:19   ` [PATCH v13 2/4] net/i40e: implement " Feifei Wang
2023-09-26  8:26     ` Ferruh Yigit
2023-09-26  8:56       ` Konstantin Ananyev
2023-09-26 13:34     ` Konstantin Ananyev
2023-09-25  3:19   ` [PATCH v13 3/4] net/ixgbe: " Feifei Wang
2023-09-26 13:30     ` Konstantin Ananyev
2023-09-25  3:19   ` [PATCH v13 4/4] app/testpmd: add recycle mbufs engine Feifei Wang
2023-09-26 13:30     ` Konstantin Ananyev
2023-09-26 16:38       ` Ajit Khaparde
2023-09-27 17:24   ` [PATCH v13 0/4] Recycle mbufs from Tx queue into Rx queue Ferruh Yigit

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