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From: Konstantin Ananyev <konstantin.v.ananyev@yandex.ru>
To: Honnappa Nagarahalli <honnappa.nagarahalli@arm.com>, dev@dpdk.org
Cc: honnappanagarahalli@gmail.com, feifei.wang2@arm.com,
	ruifeng.wang@arm.com, nd@arm.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 5/5] examples/l3fwd: enable direct rearm mode
Date: Fri, 27 May 2022 12:28:02 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <94fc60e2-09a5-adb3-7926-1b21e9ebe8ab@yandex.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <bd3bb82a-f91c-7d04-ce54-5389353e8fc8@yandex.ru>

25/05/2022 01:24, Honnappa Nagarahalli пишет:
> From: Konstantin Ananyev <konstantin.v.ananyev@yandex.ru>
> 
> 20/04/2022 09:16, Feifei Wang пишет:
>>> Enable direct rearm mode. The mapping is decided in the data plane based
>>> on the first packet received.
>>>
>>> Suggested-by: Honnappa Nagarahalli <honnappa.nagarahalli@arm.com>
>>> Signed-off-by: Feifei Wang <feifei.wang2@arm.com>
>>> Reviewed-by: Ruifeng Wang <ruifeng.wang@arm.com>
>>> Reviewed-by: Honnappa Nagarahalli <honnappa.nagarahalli@arm.com>
>>> ---
>>>   examples/l3fwd/l3fwd_lpm.c | 16 +++++++++++++++-
>>>   1 file changed, 15 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
>>>
>>> diff --git a/examples/l3fwd/l3fwd_lpm.c b/examples/l3fwd/l3fwd_lpm.c
>>> index bec22c44cd..38ffdf4636 100644
>>> --- a/examples/l3fwd/l3fwd_lpm.c
>>> +++ b/examples/l3fwd/l3fwd_lpm.c
>>> @@ -147,7 +147,7 @@ lpm_main_loop(__rte_unused void *dummy)
>>>       unsigned lcore_id;
>>>       uint64_t prev_tsc, diff_tsc, cur_tsc;
>>>       int i, nb_rx;
>>> -    uint16_t portid;
>>> +    uint16_t portid, tx_portid;
>>>       uint8_t queueid;
>>>       struct lcore_conf *qconf;
>>>       const uint64_t drain_tsc = (rte_get_tsc_hz() + US_PER_S - 1) /
>>> @@ -158,6 +158,8 @@ lpm_main_loop(__rte_unused void *dummy)
>>>       const uint16_t n_rx_q = qconf->n_rx_queue;
>>>       const uint16_t n_tx_p = qconf->n_tx_port;
>>> +    int direct_rearm_map[n_rx_q];
>>> +
>>>       if (n_rx_q == 0) {
>>>           RTE_LOG(INFO, L3FWD, "lcore %u has nothing to do\n", 
>>> lcore_id);
>>>           return 0;
>>> @@ -169,6 +171,7 @@ lpm_main_loop(__rte_unused void *dummy)
>>>           portid = qconf->rx_queue_list[i].port_id;
>>>           queueid = qconf->rx_queue_list[i].queue_id;
>>> +        direct_rearm_map[i] = 0;
>>>           RTE_LOG(INFO, L3FWD,
>>>               " -- lcoreid=%u portid=%u rxqueueid=%hhu\n",
>>>               lcore_id, portid, queueid);
>>> @@ -209,6 +212,17 @@ lpm_main_loop(__rte_unused void *dummy)
>>>               if (nb_rx == 0)
>>>                   continue;
>>> +            /* Determine the direct rearm mapping based on the first
>>> +             * packet received on the rx queue
>>> +             */
>>> +            if (direct_rearm_map[i] == 0) {
>>> +                tx_portid = lpm_get_dst_port(qconf, pkts_burst[0],
>>> +                            portid);
>>> +                rte_eth_direct_rxrearm_map(portid, queueid,
>>> +                                tx_portid, queueid);
>>> +                direct_rearm_map[i] = 1;
>>> +            }
>>> +
> 
>> That just doesn't look right to me: why to make decision based on the 
>> first packet?
> The TX queue depends on the incoming packet. So, this method covers more 
> scenarios
> than doing it in the control plane where the outgoing queue is not known.
> 
> 
>> What would happen if second and all other packets have to be routed
>> to different ports?
> This is an example application and it should be fine to make this 
> assumption.
> More over, it does not cause any problems if packets change in between. 
> When
> the packets change back, the feature works again.
> 
>> In fact, this direct-rearm mode seems suitable only for hard-coded
>> one to one mapped forwarding (examples/l2fwd, testpmd).
>> For l3fwd it can be used safely only when we have one port in use.
> Can you elaborate more on the safety issue when more than one port is used?
> 
>> Also I think it should be selected at init-time and
>> it shouldn't be on by default.
>> To summarize, my opinion:
>> special cmd-line parameter to enable it.
> Can you please elaborate why a command line parameter is required? Other 
> similar
> features like RTE_ETH_TX_OFFLOAD_MBUF_FAST_FREE are enabled without a 
> command
> line parameter. IMO, this is how it should ber. Essentially we are 
> trying to measure
> how different PMDs perform, the ones that have implemented performance 
> improvement
> features would show better performance (i.e. the PMDs implementing the 
> features
> should not be penalized by asking for additional user input).

 From my perspective, main purpose of l3fwd application is to demonstrate
DPDK ability to do packet routing based on input packet contents.
Making guesses about packet contents is a change in expected behavior.
For some cases it might improve performance, for many others -
will most likely cause performance drop.
I think that performance drop as default behavior
(running the same parameters as before) should not be allowed.
Plus you did not provided ability to switch off that behavior,
if undesired.

About comparison with RTE_ETH_TX_OFFLOAD_MBUF_FAST_FREE
default enablement - I don't think it is correct.
Within l3fwd app we can safely guarantee that all
RTE_ETH_TX_OFFLOAD_MBUF_FAST_FREE pre-requirements are met:
in each TX queue all mbufs will belong to the same mempool and
their refcnt will always equal to one.
Here you are making guesses about contents of input packets,
without any guarantee that you guess will always be valid.

BTW, what's wrong with using l2fwd to demonstrate that feature?
Seems like a natural choice to me.

>> allowable only when we run l3fwd over one port.
> 
> 
>>>   #if defined RTE_ARCH_X86 || defined __ARM_NEON \
>>>                || defined RTE_ARCH_PPC_64
>>>               l3fwd_lpm_send_packets(nb_rx, pkts_burst,


  reply	other threads:[~2022-05-27 11:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 145+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-04-20  8:16 [PATCH v1 0/5] Direct re-arming of buffers on receive side Feifei Wang
2022-04-20  8:16 ` [PATCH v1 1/5] net/i40e: remove redundant Dtype initialization Feifei Wang
2022-04-20  8:16 ` [PATCH v1 2/5] net/i40e: enable direct rearm mode Feifei Wang
2022-05-11 22:28   ` Konstantin Ananyev
2022-04-20  8:16 ` [PATCH v1 3/5] ethdev: add API for " Feifei Wang
2022-04-20  9:59   ` Morten Brørup
2022-04-29  2:42     ` 回复: " Feifei Wang
2022-04-20 10:41   ` Andrew Rybchenko
2022-04-29  6:28     ` 回复: " Feifei Wang
2022-05-10 22:49       ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2022-06-03 10:19         ` Andrew Rybchenko
2022-04-20 10:50   ` Jerin Jacob
2022-05-02  3:09     ` 回复: " Feifei Wang
2022-04-21 14:57   ` Stephen Hemminger
2022-04-29  6:35     ` 回复: " Feifei Wang
2022-04-20  8:16 ` [PATCH v1 4/5] net/i40e: add direct rearm mode internal API Feifei Wang
2022-05-11 22:31   ` Konstantin Ananyev
2022-04-20  8:16 ` [PATCH v1 5/5] examples/l3fwd: enable direct rearm mode Feifei Wang
2022-04-20 10:10   ` Morten Brørup
2022-04-21  2:35     ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2022-04-21  6:40       ` Morten Brørup
2022-05-10 22:01         ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2022-05-11  7:17           ` Morten Brørup
2022-05-11 22:33   ` Konstantin Ananyev
2022-05-27 11:28     ` Konstantin Ananyev [this message]
2022-05-31 17:14       ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2022-06-03 10:32         ` Andrew Rybchenko
2022-06-06 11:27         ` Konstantin Ananyev
2022-06-29 21:25           ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2022-05-11 23:00 ` [PATCH v1 0/5] Direct re-arming of buffers on receive side Konstantin Ananyev
     [not found] ` <20220516061012.618787-1-feifei.wang2@arm.com>
2022-05-24  1:25   ` Konstantin Ananyev
2022-05-24 12:40     ` Morten Brørup
2022-05-24 20:14     ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2022-05-28 12:22       ` Konstantin Ananyev
2022-06-01  1:00         ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2022-06-03 23:32           ` Konstantin Ananyev
2022-06-04  8:07             ` Morten Brørup
2022-06-29 21:58               ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2022-06-30 15:21                 ` Morten Brørup
2022-07-01 19:30                   ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2022-07-01 20:28                     ` Morten Brørup
2022-06-13  5:55     ` 回复: " Feifei Wang
2023-01-04  7:30 ` [PATCH v3 0/3] " Feifei Wang
2023-01-04  7:30   ` [PATCH v3 1/3] ethdev: enable direct rearm with separate API Feifei Wang
2023-01-04  8:21     ` Morten Brørup
2023-01-04  8:51       ` 回复: " Feifei Wang
2023-01-04 10:11         ` Morten Brørup
2023-02-24  8:55           ` 回复: " Feifei Wang
2023-03-06 12:49       ` Ferruh Yigit
2023-03-06 13:26         ` Morten Brørup
2023-03-06 14:53           ` 回复: " Feifei Wang
2023-03-06 15:02           ` Ferruh Yigit
2023-03-07  6:12             ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2023-03-07 10:52               ` Konstantin Ananyev
2023-03-07 20:41               ` Ferruh Yigit
2023-03-22 14:43                 ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2023-02-02 14:33     ` Konstantin Ananyev
2023-02-24  9:45       ` 回复: " Feifei Wang
2023-02-27 19:31         ` Konstantin Ananyev
2023-02-28  2:16           ` 回复: " Feifei Wang
2023-02-28  8:09           ` Morten Brørup
2023-03-01  7:34             ` 回复: " Feifei Wang
2023-01-04  7:30   ` [PATCH v3 2/3] net/i40e: " Feifei Wang
2023-02-02 14:37     ` Konstantin Ananyev
2023-02-24  9:50       ` 回复: " Feifei Wang
2023-02-27 19:35         ` Konstantin Ananyev
2023-02-28  2:15           ` 回复: " Feifei Wang
2023-03-07 11:01             ` Konstantin Ananyev
2023-03-14  6:07               ` 回复: " Feifei Wang
2023-03-19 16:11                 ` Konstantin Ananyev
2023-03-23 10:49                   ` Feifei Wang
2023-01-04  7:30   ` [PATCH v3 3/3] net/ixgbe: " Feifei Wang
2023-01-31  6:13   ` 回复: [PATCH v3 0/3] Direct re-arming of buffers on receive side Feifei Wang
2023-02-01  1:10     ` Konstantin Ananyev
2023-02-01  2:24       ` 回复: " Feifei Wang
2023-03-22 12:56   ` Morten Brørup
2023-03-22 13:41     ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2023-03-22 14:04       ` Morten Brørup
2023-08-02  7:38 ` [PATCH v8 0/4] Recycle mbufs from Tx queue into Rx queue Feifei Wang
2023-08-02  7:38   ` [PATCH v8 1/4] ethdev: add API for mbufs recycle mode Feifei Wang
2023-08-02  7:38   ` [PATCH v8 2/4] net/i40e: implement " Feifei Wang
2023-08-02  7:38   ` [PATCH v8 3/4] net/ixgbe: " Feifei Wang
2023-08-02  7:38   ` [PATCH v8 4/4] app/testpmd: add recycle mbufs engine Feifei Wang
2023-08-02  8:08 ` [PATCH v9 0/4] Recycle mbufs from Tx queue into Rx queue Feifei Wang
2023-08-02  8:08   ` [PATCH v9 1/4] ethdev: add API for mbufs recycle mode Feifei Wang
2023-08-02  8:08   ` [PATCH v9 2/4] net/i40e: implement " Feifei Wang
2023-08-02  8:08   ` [PATCH v9 3/4] net/ixgbe: " Feifei Wang
2023-08-02  8:08   ` [PATCH v9 4/4] app/testpmd: add recycle mbufs engine Feifei Wang
2023-08-04  9:24 ` [PATCH v10 0/4] Recycle mbufs from Tx queue into Rx queue Feifei Wang
2023-08-04  9:24   ` [PATCH v10 1/4] ethdev: add API for mbufs recycle mode Feifei Wang
2023-08-04  9:24   ` [PATCH v10 2/4] net/i40e: implement " Feifei Wang
2023-08-04  9:24   ` [PATCH v10 3/4] net/ixgbe: " Feifei Wang
2023-08-04  9:24   ` [PATCH v10 4/4] app/testpmd: add recycle mbufs engine Feifei Wang
2023-08-22  7:27 ` [PATCH v11 0/4] Recycle mbufs from Tx queue into Rx queue Feifei Wang
2023-08-22  7:27   ` [PATCH v11 1/4] ethdev: add API for mbufs recycle mode Feifei Wang
2023-08-22 14:02     ` Stephen Hemminger
2023-08-24  3:16       ` Feifei Wang
2023-08-22 23:33     ` Konstantin Ananyev
2023-08-24  3:38     ` Feifei Wang
2023-08-22  7:27   ` [PATCH v11 2/4] net/i40e: implement " Feifei Wang
2023-08-22 23:43     ` Konstantin Ananyev
2023-08-24  6:10     ` Feifei Wang
2023-08-31 17:24       ` Konstantin Ananyev
2023-08-31 23:49         ` Konstantin Ananyev
2023-09-01 12:22         ` Feifei Wang
2023-09-01 14:22           ` Konstantin Ananyev
2023-09-04  6:59             ` Feifei Wang
2023-09-04  7:49               ` Konstantin Ananyev
2023-09-04  9:24                 ` Feifei Wang
2023-09-04 10:21                   ` Konstantin Ananyev
2023-09-05  3:11                     ` Feifei Wang
2023-09-22 14:58                       ` Feifei Wang
2023-09-22 15:46                         ` Feifei Wang
2023-09-22 16:40                           ` Konstantin Ananyev
2023-09-23  5:52                             ` Feifei Wang
2023-09-23 20:40                               ` Konstantin Ananyev
2023-09-25  3:26                               ` Feifei Wang
2023-08-22  7:27   ` [PATCH v11 3/4] net/ixgbe: " Feifei Wang
2023-08-22  7:27   ` [PATCH v11 4/4] app/testpmd: add recycle mbufs engine Feifei Wang
2023-08-22  7:33   ` [PATCH v11 0/4] Recycle mbufs from Tx queue into Rx queue Feifei Wang
2023-08-22 13:59   ` Stephen Hemminger
2023-08-24  3:11     ` Feifei Wang
2023-08-24  7:36 ` [PATCH v12 " Feifei Wang
2023-08-24  7:36   ` [PATCH v12 1/4] ethdev: add API for mbufs recycle mode Feifei Wang
2023-08-31  9:16     ` Feifei Wang
2023-09-20 13:10     ` Ferruh Yigit
2023-08-24  7:36   ` [PATCH v12 2/4] net/i40e: implement " Feifei Wang
2023-08-24  7:36   ` [PATCH v12 3/4] net/ixgbe: " Feifei Wang
2023-08-24  7:36   ` [PATCH v12 4/4] app/testpmd: add recycle mbufs engine Feifei Wang
2023-09-20 13:11     ` Ferruh Yigit
2023-09-20 13:12   ` [PATCH v12 0/4] Recycle mbufs from Tx queue into Rx queue Ferruh Yigit
2023-09-22 15:30     ` Ferruh Yigit
2023-09-25  3:19 ` [PATCH v13 " Feifei Wang
2023-09-25  3:19   ` [PATCH v13 1/4] ethdev: add API for mbufs recycle mode Feifei Wang
2023-09-25  4:40     ` Ajit Khaparde
2023-09-25  3:19   ` [PATCH v13 2/4] net/i40e: implement " Feifei Wang
2023-09-26  8:26     ` Ferruh Yigit
2023-09-26  8:56       ` Konstantin Ananyev
2023-09-26 13:34     ` Konstantin Ananyev
2023-09-25  3:19   ` [PATCH v13 3/4] net/ixgbe: " Feifei Wang
2023-09-26 13:30     ` Konstantin Ananyev
2023-09-25  3:19   ` [PATCH v13 4/4] app/testpmd: add recycle mbufs engine Feifei Wang
2023-09-26 13:30     ` Konstantin Ananyev
2023-09-26 16:38       ` Ajit Khaparde
2023-09-27 17:24   ` [PATCH v13 0/4] Recycle mbufs from Tx queue into Rx queue Ferruh Yigit

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