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From: Jerin Jacob Kollanukkaran <jerinj@marvell.com>
To: "thomas@monjalon.net" <thomas@monjalon.net>,
	"yskoh@mellanox.com" <yskoh@mellanox.com>
Cc: "shahafs@mellanox.com" <shahafs@mellanox.com>,
	"honnappa.nagarahalli@arm.com" <honnappa.nagarahalli@arm.com>,
	"Gavin.Hu@arm.com" <Gavin.Hu@arm.com>,
	"tspeier@qti.qualcomm.com" <tspeier@qti.qualcomm.com>,
	"bluca@debian.org" <bluca@debian.org>,
	"dev@dpdk.org" <dev@dpdk.org>
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [EXT] [PATCH] config: change default cache line size for ARMv8 with meson
Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2019 12:47:58 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <b660e8fba3474d07602a1b18a74a4c9adba86db6.camel@marvell.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1764937.rquPbBeTJo@xps>

On Wed, 2019-01-09 at 12:28 +0100, Thomas Monjalon wrote:
> 09/01/2019 11:49, Jerin Jacob Kollanukkaran:
> > On Wed, 2019-01-09 at 10:22 +0000, Yongseok Koh wrote:
> > > On Jan 9, 2019, at 2:09 AM, Jerin Jacob Kollanukkaran wrote:
> > > > I think, I way forward is to add
> > > > config/arm/arm64_a72_linuxapp_gcc
> > > > for meson. This config can be used for all SoC with A72 armv8 
> > > > implementation and may have sym link to specfific SoC to avoid
> > > > confusion to end users.
> > > 
> > > Is config/arm/arm64_a72_linuxapp_gcc valid? Others have 
> > 
> > Yes. For cross compiling for A72.
> 
> Any cross-compilation with meson requires a config file.
> The default Arm cross-compilation is done with
> 	config/arm/arm64_armv8_linuxapp_gcc
> which set implementor_id = 'generic'
> 
> For native compilation, implementor_id is detected from
> /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/regs/identification/midr_el1
> 
> So each Arm machine needs 2 things:
> 	- a cross-compilation file
> 	- settings based on implementor_id in config/arm/meson.build

Yes. config/arm/arm64_armv8_linuxapp_gcc sets the implementor_id =
'generic' which assumed to generic across all the armv8 platform.
If tomorrow there is new core from ARM which A100 with armv8.2 specific
we can not tune the generic params armv8.2 as it will break other 
CPU.


> > Having not seperate IMPLEMENTOR ID is a chip design issue.
> 
> No I don't think it's a design issue.
> If the Arm core has no modification, it does not need to be
> specially identified.

Thats right. It does not need to be specially identified,
then should have default config is enough. 


> 
> > I think it can work around by creating
> > config/arm/arm64_<your_soc_name>_linuxapp_gcc
> > and build on x86 or arm64 through
> > 
> > meson build --cross-file
> > config/arm/arm64_<your_soc_name>_linuxapp_gcc
> 
> No, it is a real A72, so it should work with default settings.
> 
> The only issue we have is that the default cache line size for
> Aarch64
> is set to 128 in config/arm/meson.build, and this is wrong.
> The default cache line is 64 bits.

The cache line size as per ARM spec it is IMPLEMENTATION DEFINED.
So no default there. So the default is something work on all platforms.
Actually Cavium has machine with 64B and 128B CL and same image should
work on both for generic build.

> This is already overriden for Cavium machines which have 128-bit
> cache lines.
> It may be needed to do the same change for other machines (Qualcomm?)
> having Arm core modified to 128-bit cache lines.

Assume you meant 128B here. Building the image Naively(on 128B CL
machine) and cross compile (on x86) is not an issue.

> 
> The other concern is about running a generic Arm build.

Yes. That's the ONLY concern.

> Given 64-bit should be the default, generic builds will have this
> value.
> Is it a big issue for running generic 64-bit build on Cavium
> machines?

Cavium has both 64B and 128B CL machines. So putting generic form,

You can run 128B configured image on 64B machine, It will waste some
memory not beyond that. Other way around will result in HW misbehavior.
ie Running 64B CL image on 128B target.






> 
> 

  reply	other threads:[~2019-01-09 12:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-01-09  9:39 [dpdk-dev] " Yongseok Koh
2019-01-09 10:09 ` [dpdk-dev] [EXT] " Jerin Jacob Kollanukkaran
2019-01-09 10:19   ` Luca Boccassi
2019-01-09 10:52     ` Jerin Jacob Kollanukkaran
2019-01-09 13:14       ` Luca Boccassi
2019-01-09 10:22   ` Yongseok Koh
2019-01-09 10:49     ` Jerin Jacob Kollanukkaran
2019-01-09 11:28       ` Thomas Monjalon
2019-01-09 12:47         ` Jerin Jacob Kollanukkaran [this message]
2019-01-09 13:30           ` Thomas Monjalon
2019-01-09 14:23             ` Jerin Jacob Kollanukkaran
2019-01-09 14:57               ` Thomas Monjalon
2019-01-09 15:34                 ` [dpdk-dev] " Jerin Jacob Kollanukkaran
2019-01-09 15:41                   ` Luca Boccassi
2019-01-09 16:36                     ` [dpdk-dev] [EXT] " Pavan Nikhilesh Bhagavatula
2019-01-09 16:52                       ` Luca Boccassi
2019-01-09 17:01                         ` Pavan Nikhilesh Bhagavatula
2019-01-14  4:32                 ` [dpdk-dev] [EXT] " Yongseok Koh
2019-01-14  7:44                   ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2019-01-16  2:02                     ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2019-01-19  7:09                       ` Yongseok Koh
2019-01-22 18:51                         ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2019-01-23  8:56                           ` Jerin Jacob Kollanukkaran
2019-01-23 16:24                             ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2019-01-23 17:19                               ` Jerin Jacob Kollanukkaran

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