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From: Ferruh Yigit <ferruh.yigit@intel.com>
To: 谢华伟(此时此刻) <huawei.xhw@alibaba-inc.com>,
	Maxime Coquelin <maxime.coquelin@redhat.com>
Cc: dev@dpdk.org, anatoly.burakov@intel.com,
	david.marchand@redhat.com, grive@u256.net,
	zhihong.wang@intel.com, chenbo.xia@intel.com
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4] pci: support both PIO and MMIO BAR for legacy virtio on x86
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2020 10:44:39 +0100
Message-ID: <a6998c46-8026-7aec-0fe6-d96a05cb6a41@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <fe66e112-8edc-e18d-dcd2-009b422aa3f2@alibaba-inc.com>

On 10/22/2020 10:15 AM, 谢华伟(此时此刻) wrote:
> 
> On 2020/10/22 1:24, Ferruh Yigit wrote:
>> On 10/21/2020 1:32 PM, 谢华伟(此时此刻) wrote:
>>>
>>> On 2020/10/21 19:49, Ferruh Yigit wrote:
>>>> On 10/13/2020 9:41 AM, 谢华伟(此时此刻) wrote:
>>>>> From: "huawei.xhw" <huawei.xhw@alibaba-inc.com>
>>>>>
>>>>> Legacy virtio-pci only supports PIO BAR resource. As we need to create lots of
>>>>> virtio devices and PIO resource on x86 is very limited, we expose MMIO BAR.
>>>>>
>>>>> Kernel supports both PIO  and MMIO BAR for legacy virtio-pci device. We 
>>>>> handles
>>>>> different type of BAR in the similar way.
>>>>>
>>>>> In previous implementation, with igb_uio we get PIO address from igb_uio
>>>>> sysfs entry; with uio_pci_generic, we get PIO address from
>>>>> /proc/ioports.
>>>>> For PIO/MMIO RW, there is different path for different drivers and arch.
>>>>> For VFIO, PIO/MMIO RW is through syscall, which has big performance
>>>>> issue.
>>>>> On X86, it assumes only PIO is supported.
>>>>>
>>>>> All of the above is too much twisted.
>>>>> This patch unifies the way to get both PIO and MMIO address for different 
>>>>> driver
>>>>> and arch, all from standard resource attr under pci sysfs.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> As mentined above this patch does multiple things.
>>>>
>>>> The main target is, as far as I understand, you have a legacy virtio device 
>>>> which supports "memory-mapped I/O" and "port-mapped I/O", but virtio logic 
>>>> forces legacy devices to use the PIO but you want to be able to use the MMIO 
>>>> with this device.
>>> yes.
>>>>
>>>> The solution below is adding MMIO support in the PIO funciton, and 
>>>> distinguish MMIO or PIO based on their address check.
>>> Yes, kernel does this in the similar way.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Instead of this, can't this be resolved in the virtio side, like if the 
>>>> legacy device supports MMIO (detect this somehow) use the MMIO istead of 
>>>> hacking PIO mapping to support MMIO?
>>>
>>> Get your concern.
>>>
>>> 1>
>>>
>>> If we move, I think we should move all those PCI codes into virtio side, not 
>>> just the mmio part.
>>>
>>> Without my patch, those PCI codes are virtio-pci device specific, not generic.
>>>
>>> With this patch, those pci ioport map/rw code could also be used for other 
>>> devices if they support both PIO and MMIO.
>>>
>>
>> I was not suggesting moving any code into virtio, but within 'vtpci_init()' 
>> what happens when "hw->modern = 1;" is set?
>> And if this is set for your device, will it work without change?
> 
> Yes, this will only affect legacy_device, which uses legacy_ops to access port io.
> 
> If is is modern_device, port access will go through modern_ops.
> 
> We only change the implementation in legacy_ops.
> 

I am saying something else.

When a device is marked as "hw->modern = 1;", it will use MMIO, right?
If, somehow, your device marked as "hw->modern = 1;", will that path work as 
expected for your device?

> 
>>
>>> Every option is ok. Hope i make myself clear.
>>>
>>> 2>  I don't think this is hacking. for rte_pci_ioport_map/read/write, if 
>>> ioport could be both PIO and MMIO, then everything is reasonable.
>>>
>>> Take how kernel does port map for example:
>>>
>>>      vp_dev->ioaddr = pci_iomap(pci_dev, 0, 0);
>>>
>>> Here io doesn't mean PIO only. It could also be MMIO. Kernel then uses 
>>> ioread/write to access PIO/MMIO port.
>>>
>>> Actually we are pretty much the same in the interface.
>>>
>>> I think this patch extends rather then hacks the ioport interface to support 
>>> MMIO.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I have other concerns, specially mergin VFIO mapping too, but lets clarify 
>>>> above first.
>>>
>>> vfio doesn't affect other driver but only virtio.
>>>
>>
>> Why it doesn't affect other drivers, can't there be other driver using PIO?
> 
> Currently only virtio-pci uses PIO, and only virtio PMD uses these port 
> map/read/write functions.
> 
> I don't foresee in future any new device uses PIO.
> 

I see but technically there can be other users.

> /huawei
> 
>>
>>> igb_uio, uio_pci_generic and vfio-pci all uses the same way to map/rw ioport.
>>>
>>
>> For vfio, code changes 'pci_vfio_ioport_read()' to the direct address read, 
>> first I don't know if this is always safe, and my question why there is a 
>> syscall introduced at first place if you can read from address directly?
> 
> Original vfio way works, but we don't need that syscall. Under whatever driver, 
> we could use the simple way as in this patch.
> 

If vfio works, you have already a solution, that is good. But I see you are not 
happy with its performance.

> /huawei
> 
>>
>> Is your device works as expected when vfio-pci kernel module used? Since it is 
>> not suffering from PIO limitation, right?
> 
> Certainly i tested vfio module. Firstly, i didn't intend to fix vfio performance 
> issue, but i heard that igb_uio will be removed.
> 

Yes, it will be removed in the long run.

> /huawei
> 
>>
>>
>> And I wonder if the patch can be done as three patches to simply it, as:
>> 1) Combine 'RTE_PCI_KDRV_IGB_UIO' & 'RTE_PCI_KDRV_UIO_GENERIC' (remove 
>> pci_ioport_map)
>> 2) Update 'pci_uio_ioport_map()' to add memory map support (and update 
>> read/write functions according)
>> 3) Combine vfio & uio
>>
> Got it. It makes sense to split, but i think this patch is already simple enough.
> 

The patch is doing many things in one patch, I think it is better to separate 
logically separate issues, although they are simple.

> Let me check.
> 
> /huawei
> 
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> ferruh
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> We distinguish PIO and MMIO by their address like how kernel does. It is 
>>>>> ugly but works.
>>>>>
>>>>> Signed-off-by: huawei.xhw <huawei.xhw@alibaba-inc.com>
>>
>> <...>


  reply	other threads:[~2020-10-22  9:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-09-30 14:59 [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2] " 谢华伟(此时此刻)
2020-10-01 10:22 ` Burakov, Anatoly
2020-10-02  5:44   ` 谢华伟(此时此刻)
2020-10-09  8:36 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3] " 谢华伟(此时此刻)
2020-10-13  8:41 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4] support both PIO and MMIO bar for virtio pci device 谢华伟(此时此刻)
2020-10-13  8:41   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4] pci: support both PIO and MMIO BAR for legacy virtio on x86 谢华伟(此时此刻)
2020-10-13 12:34     ` 谢华伟(此时此刻)
2020-10-21  8:46     ` 谢华伟(此时此刻)
2020-10-21 11:49     ` Ferruh Yigit
2020-10-21 12:32       ` 谢华伟(此时此刻)
2020-10-21 17:24         ` Ferruh Yigit
2020-10-22  9:15           ` 谢华伟(此时此刻)
2020-10-22  9:44             ` Ferruh Yigit [this message]
2020-10-22  9:57               ` 谢华伟(此时此刻)
2020-10-22 15:51 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 0/3] support both PIO and MMIO BAR for virtio PMD 谢华伟(此时此刻)
2020-10-22 15:51   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 1/3] PCI: use PCI standard sysfs entry to get PIO address 谢华伟(此时此刻)
2021-01-12  8:07     ` Maxime Coquelin
2021-01-14 18:23       ` 谢华伟(此时此刻)
2021-01-24 15:10         ` Xueming(Steven) Li
2020-10-22 15:51   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 2/3] PCI: support MMIO in rte_pci_ioport_map/unap/read/write 谢华伟(此时此刻)
2021-01-12  8:23     ` Maxime Coquelin
2021-01-21  6:30       ` 谢华伟(此时此刻)
2021-01-24 15:22     ` Xueming(Steven) Li
2021-01-25  3:08       ` 谢华伟(此时此刻)
2021-01-27 10:40     ` Ferruh Yigit
2021-01-27 15:34       ` 谢华伟(此时此刻)
2021-01-27 16:45         ` Ferruh Yigit
2020-10-22 15:51   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 3/3] PCI: don't use vfio ioctl call to access PIO resource 谢华伟(此时此刻)
2021-01-12  9:37     ` Maxime Coquelin
2021-01-12 16:58       ` Maxime Coquelin
2021-01-20 14:54         ` 谢华伟(此时此刻)
2021-01-21  8:29           ` Maxime Coquelin
2021-01-21 14:57             ` 谢华伟(此时此刻)
2021-01-21 15:00               ` 谢华伟(此时此刻)
2021-01-21 15:38               ` Maxime Coquelin
2021-01-22  7:25                 ` 谢华伟(此时此刻)
2021-01-26 10:44                   ` Maxime Coquelin
2021-01-27 10:32                     ` Ferruh Yigit
2021-01-27 12:17                       ` Maxime Coquelin
2021-01-27 14:43                       ` 谢华伟(此时此刻)
2021-01-27 16:45                         ` Ferruh Yigit
2021-01-28 13:43                           ` 谢华伟(此时此刻)
2021-01-26 12:30                   ` 谢华伟(此时此刻)
2021-01-26 12:35                     ` Maxime Coquelin
2021-01-26 14:24                       ` 谢华伟(此时此刻)
2020-10-27  8:50   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 0/3] support both PIO and MMIO BAR for virtio PMD 谢华伟(此时此刻)
2020-10-28  3:48     ` 谢华伟(此时此刻)
2020-11-02 11:56   ` 谢华伟(此时此刻)
2020-11-10 12:35   ` 谢华伟(此时此刻)
2020-11-10 12:42     ` David Marchand
2020-11-12 13:35       ` 谢华伟(此时此刻)
2020-12-14 14:24       ` 谢华伟(此时此刻)
2020-12-16  7:54         ` Maxime Coquelin
2021-01-12 17:37   ` Maxime Coquelin
2021-01-14 18:19     ` 谢华伟(此时此刻)
2021-01-21  4:12     ` 谢华伟(此时此刻)
2021-01-21  8:47       ` Maxime Coquelin
2021-01-21 13:51         ` 谢华伟(此时此刻)

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